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  • shelby5041
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    • Feb 2009
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    #21
    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

    mine is bn44-00134a

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    • nomoresonys
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      • Jan 2013
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      #22
      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

      wrong post.
      Last edited by nomoresonys; 01-30-2015, 10:30 PM.

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      • budm
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        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
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        #23
        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

        OK, this board does not have pull-up resistors based on the diagram (not from SAMSUNG) so disconnecting the cable on this one will not cause it to come on.
        You will have to measure the Voltage on all the pins on the power supply board that goes to the main board when the TV is working and when the TV does not work to see if any of the signals are missing or not.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • shelby5041
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          • Feb 2009
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          #24
          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

          i checked all the voltages on all the wires on power supply when backlight went off and all are good

          the only wires i didnt check were the ones from large transformer

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #25
            Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

            What do mean by all good? what are the readings?
            The ps_on, the bl_on, the dimm, are good? The PFC Voltage is good?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • shelby5041
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              • Feb 2009
              • 1505
              • united states of america usa

              #26
              Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

              im at work but on all the voltages where there is a number i get same voltage

              i get 12v 12v 12v 13v 5v 5v etc etc etc...on all pins marked on the large cable going to main board

              not sure about bl-on and dimm values will check afer work

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              • nomoresonys
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                • Jan 2013
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                • U.S.

                #27
                Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                heres a good pic. of the board. http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn4...wer-supply.htm

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                • nomoresonys
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12276
                  • U.S.

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                  mine has backlights, just cant figure out which component/s on mainboard is bad.

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                  • shelby5041
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1505
                    • united states of america usa

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                    all check good see photo
                    Attached Files

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                      Originally posted by shelby5041
                      im at work but on all the voltages where there is a number i get same voltage

                      i get 12v 12v 12v 13v 5v 5v etc etc etc...on all pins marked on the large cable going to main board

                      not sure about bl-on and dimm values will check afer work
                      Well that is why saying they are OK means you know what all the Voltages of all the signals and supply should be, but you do not have no bl_on = no backlights, no PWM DIM = no backlights.
                      You have to understand what the TV needs to get the backlights to work.
                      Last edited by budm; 01-30-2015, 10:46 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • nomoresonys
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12276
                        • U.S.

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                        pic. of mainboard. http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn9...main-board.htm

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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                          Originally posted by shelby5041
                          all check good see photo
                          There are two set of cables that go to the main board.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • shelby5041
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1505
                            • united states of america usa

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                            yes the other set has no voltage number labeled.....when i get home i will check voltages when tv works then when backlights go off i will check voltages....

                            thank you

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                            • shelby5041
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1505
                              • united states of america usa

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                              this set has bad history on bad caps in that area but all caps look good....sometimes the backlight will stay on for hours...sometimes 5 minutes.........ill let u know tomorrow my results

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                              • shelby5041
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                                • Feb 2009
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                                • united states of america usa

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                well why am i getting 12v to the two thin boards from the power supply even when the backlight goes off....? whats the purpose of the 12v present?.....obviously it doesnt power on the backlgiht correct?

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                                • shelby5041
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                                  • Feb 2009
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                                  • united states of america usa

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                  backlight usually need 24v?

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    • Jan 2013
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                                    • U.S.

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                    probably wouldnt hurt to touch up those solder joints you spoke of.

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                                    • budm
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                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                      "backlight usually need 24v?"
                                      "well why am i getting 12v to the two thin boards from the power supply even when the backlight goes off....? whats the purpose of the 12v present?.....obviously it doesnt power on the backlgiht correct?"

                                      Not in this Power supply-inverter board combo, the inverter circuits that drive the large High Voltage transformer runs on 380~400VDC which is generated by the PFC Voltage booster circuit.
                                      The older design that has inverter board by itself runs on 24VDC.
                                      The 12V to the balancer boards is for running the sensing circuit that detects if the one or more lamps do not stay on or not connected or draw too much current which then the board will send out an error signal back o shut down the inverter circuits.
                                      Last edited by budm; 01-30-2015, 11:02 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • shelby5041
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2009
                                        • 1505
                                        • united states of america usa

                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                        oh ok.....thanks....maybe the solder joints are bad trwnsformer like you tube video and when that area heats up they come aprt and backlight goes off....if i wait a few minutes with tv off it will power back up with backlight fine ...........it always works when sitting for a while.and powered on.....but once on, backlights will shut off after random time

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                                        • shelby5041
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2009
                                          • 1505
                                          • united states of america usa

                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                          yes i saw one video for this tv that when a lamp draws too many amps it will shit down all power to backlights......however not sure thats my case...becuase mine is intermittent if mine had a bad lamp it should trigger all the time same time..probably at startup.....corrrect?......reminder i am very novice so please understand that whan i make responses.........i am not highly knowledgeable like you on this subject

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