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  • alfredomfr1
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    • Oct 2014
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    #1

    Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

    No backlight but I can see the image when I light up the screen.
    Power Board: BN44-00342B

    Voltage across the 450 capacitor: 163v

    Any help troubleshooting this would be appreciated.
    Thanks guys
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #2
    Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

    Report the DC Voltage readings on CN802.
    Pictures provided by SHOPJIMMY.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by budm; 11-06-2014, 10:56 AM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • alfredomfr1
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      • Oct 2014
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      #3
      Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

      CN802: 0v

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

        On every pin....? Are you sure?
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • alfredomfr1
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          • Oct 2014
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

          Sorry my mistake
          CN802
          Pin 1: 12.58v
          Last 2 pins: 9v
          0v in the rest of pins

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

            That is still not right, that connector has double-row of odd and even pins.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by budm; 11-06-2014, 12:07 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

            Comment

            • alfredomfr1
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              • Oct 2014
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              #7
              Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

              In order to measure CN802, I disconnected CNI801 AND CNI802
              CN802
              1,2,3: 12.62v
              4,5: 0v
              6,7: 5v
              8,9: 18.85v
              10: 0v
              11: 5v
              12: 0.78v
              13,14,15: 0v
              16,17: 5v
              18: 0.8v

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              • alfredomfr1
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                • Oct 2014
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                Sorry another mistake in the last post
                this is the right pin out
                1,3,5: 12.62
                7,9: 0
                11,13: 5v
                15,17: 18.85
                2: 0v
                4: 5v
                6: 0.78
                8,10,12: 0v
                14,16: 5v
                18: 0.8v

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                • alfredomfr1
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                  • Oct 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                  Any Help?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                    OK, not sure about pin 18 which receives POWER ON/OFF command from the main board, it looks like it is active LO (LO (<1VDC) = ON because all the Voltages are present.
                    The backlights inverter on (pin 4) is present, this voltage should be <1V when TV is turned off, please verify.
                    Also the dc Voltage at the two legs of the main filter caps shouLd jump up to 350~400VDC if the PFC Voltage booster is working, the backlights inverter circuit needs this high voltage to function, if that voltage is staying at 160V, then we will need to look deeper in the PFC CIRCUIT. I hope you do have all the proper tools to work on this board at component level.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • alfredomfr1
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 318
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                      Good morning budm
                      I'm ready to work in the PFC circuit
                      Thanks for your help

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                        So, you did not see the boosted voltage on the main cap, right?
                        Your bottom side of you board matches this picture?
                        Attached Files
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                        Comment

                        • alfredomfr1
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Oct 2014
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                          No boosted voltage and yes same board

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                          • alfredomfr1
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                            Remember that CNI801 and CNI802 are disconnected

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                              Originally posted by alfredomfr1
                              Remember that CNI801 and CNI802 are disconnected
                              That is fine, that will not affect the PFC.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                                Can you read the number on top of the PFC IC ICP801? We need to get the spec sheet to get the pin out of this IC.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                Comment

                                • alfredomfr1
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 318
                                  • usa

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                                  Fan7530

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                                  • alfredomfr1
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2014
                                    • 318
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                                    Black point of the multimeter connected to the chassis of the tv and taking measure with the red point on FAN7530, all pins read less than 0.1v

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                                    • alfredomfr1
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Oct 2014
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                                      Hi guys I need help with this TV can we continue with this thread. Thanks in advance

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN55C630 Sound ok, No backlight

                                        So, was that measurement with the TV powered on, board plugged in to main board & AC power?
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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