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  • magneh
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2014
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    #1

    Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

    Hello!

    Got this set from a friend and it has image issues.
    Opened it, checked PowerBoard voltages, all OK.
    Inverter 24V OK. 5V OK.
    All voltages present Ok.
    In some input's I got a normal image, but in antenna I've got a messed up image.
    First picture, when in EXT1, menu image OK.
    2nd one, when in EXT2, menu image OK.
    3rd one, when in antenna, image NOK.
    4th and 5th one, when scanning antenna signals, some "blurr" appears in the menu image.

    Share your thoughts guys!
    Thanks!
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  • magneh
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    • Apr 2014
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    #2
    Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

    Yo guys!

    No Samsung guru's in tha house?

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    • Ltank
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jun 2013
      • 776
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

      If the screen was bad the menu would be bad but the menu looks fine so the screen and panel should be good. I think it's the main board

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      • triplefour
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2014
        • 1747
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

        if it seems like the problem is only with the tuner part, can u just replace that?
        Don't fear the repair...

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        • Shinju
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2014
          • 1239
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

          What does the image look like with HDMI ect?

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          • magneh
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2014
            • 585
            • Portugal

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

            Originally posted by Ltank
            If the screen was bad the menu would be bad but the menu looks fine so the screen and panel should be good. I think it's the main board
            Originally posted by triplefour
            if it seems like the problem is only with the tuner part, can u just replace that?
            Originally posted by Shinju
            What does the image look like with HDMI ect?
            Thanks for all the inputs!
            Gonna connect a HMDI source and take some pics!
            This TV has a Power Board, i/O board, 100hz board and tCon board.
            The culprit should be one of them...excluding the Power b0ard since all tensions presented OK...

            Gonna update later!
            Last edited by magneh; 10-11-2014, 08:09 PM.

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            • magneh
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              • Apr 2014
              • 585
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              #7
              Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

              Hello!

              Well, I've got some inputs available and here are the results .

              picture1- back of the lcd
              picture2- hdmi input menu
              picture3 - hdmi connected, no image just one line in the bottom.
              When I select identify monitors on my laptop, I can see the 2 on the
              LCD but no image, just that blurry line on the bottom
              picture4 - ext1 by SCART connected in cable box TV. on the image of the start up of the cable box I can see some defects on the top of the image
              (some weird black stripes)
              picture5 - image on the cable box and I can see the image flickering and some blurry defects

              Exluding power board and inverter, the culprit could be 100hz board or main...

              Is it possible to troubleshoot these boards with MM?

              Thanks
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              • magneh
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                • Apr 2014
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                Well I found a guy who is willing to sell me a new Mainboard and if it doesnt solve the issue with the LCD, he will refund.

                What do you guys think?
                Should I take this shot?

                Thanks!

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                • Shinju
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1239
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                  Can you get into the service menu, TV off, hit Mute,1,8,2 in that order then power on.

                  Try and find the menu option for test patterns, DDR pre/post, FRC pre/post ect ect.

                  DO NOT change any settings outside of the test patterns, all changes you make are set in stone and cannot be wiped with a factory reset. The only way to do so is to go back in and change them back. (write down any options before you change anything so you can change them back).

                  If these issues persist in the test patterns chances are its a bad panel. Do this before you swap the new mainboard in.

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                  • magneh
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                    Hello!

                    Well, I've done the Mute+1+8+2 sequency and without pressing Power after, the set blinks twice and turns on, but the only thing I get is this (see pic).
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                    • Shinju
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 1239
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                      Have your HDMI device on and set the input on the tv to display that source then do the service menu and see.

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                      • sordids999
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • May 2013
                        • 2149
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                        Put TV on standby and then push in series these buttons on the remote: 'info, menu, mute, power' the TV will then turn itself on and display a menu

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                        • magneh
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                          • Apr 2014
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                          Hello!

                          Ive done the Info+menu+mute+power sequency , got 4 blinks and the image turned on with the service menu for about 1 second and got back to those patterns like I posted on last photo.

                          Turned off. Tried again, 4 blinks and saw again the service menu 1 sec and image goes to that pattern :/ Damn.

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                          • triplefour
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • May 2014
                            • 1747
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                            not that i have experience here but that single line of static across the screen doesnt look too comforting :/

                            is there any input that it does look fine on?
                            Last edited by triplefour; 10-15-2014, 04:53 PM.
                            Don't fear the repair...

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                            • magneh
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                              • Apr 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                              Originally posted by Shinju
                              Can you get into the service menu, TV off, hit Mute,1,8,2 in that order then power on.

                              Try and find the menu option for test patterns, DDR pre/post, FRC pre/post ect ect.

                              DO NOT change any settings outside of the test patterns, all changes you make are set in stone and cannot be wiped with a factory reset. The only way to do so is to go back in and change them back. (write down any options before you change anything so you can change them back).

                              If these issues persist in the test patterns chances are its a bad panel. Do this before you swap the new mainboard in.
                              Originally posted by Shinju
                              Have your HDMI device on and set the input on the tv to display that source then do the service menu and see.
                              Originally posted by triplefour
                              not that i have experience here but that single line of static across the screen doesnt look too comforting :/

                              is there any input that it does look fine on?
                              Hello!

                              Well I've found out that there's only 1 input where I cant access the service menu after all.
                              If I'm on AV,HDMI,EXT or AV , I can see the menu!
                              I made a factory reset and no changes, as expected.

                              I cant find those test pattern DR pre/post, FRC pre/post Shinju talked about.
                              Here are some pics of the options I get.
                              1rst picture - menu
                              2nd picture - option table (service)´
                              3rd picture - checksum

                              Could it stil be a bad pannel? Or should I order the Mainboard and test?

                              Thanks!
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                              • Shinju
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 1239
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                                What was in the advance menu? BTW I think the menu system for Samsung outside of the US is not the same, as I have never seen a SM like yours before.

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                                • magneh
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                                  • Apr 2014
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                                  Originally posted by Shinju
                                  What was in the advance menu? BTW I think the menu system for Samsung outside of the US is not the same, as I have never seen a SM like yours before.
                                  On option 4 Advanced menu I cant get into any options.
                                  If I go to 1 I get into menu of picture 2.
                                  In option 4 I press OK but I cant get any options beyond.

                                  Cheers

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                                  • magneh
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                                    Any thoughts why I cant enter any options on option4?

                                    Should I try another Mainboard?
                                    Thanks

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                                      Press 0 four times on remote to access menu 4. Nothing much interesting there though.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • magneh
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                                        • Apr 2014
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LE37A656A1FXXC bad panel?

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        Press 0 four times on remote to access menu 4. Nothing much interesting there though.
                                        Ok, so what should I do now?
                                        I cant do those pattern tests, and I dont see much where to troubleshoot next.

                                        Should I give up from this set ?

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