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  • CraigR
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 965
    • USA

    #1

    ilo V27DMBX dead totally

    ilo V27DMBX totally dead. no light on the front or anything. On the power supply I found 2 bad mosfets and the main cap was bad so replaced all those and the blown fuse. Same thing all dead. No caps are swollen and I replaced what I think was the start up cap and still totally dead. I have zero volts at all the pins on the connector. I know there must be an open someplace I think. I just can't find any info on this and there is no voltages printed on the board next to the plug so no clue what is to be there. The board is PN 6693006602
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  • CraigR
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 965
    • USA

    #2
    Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

    Another picture with the heat shield removed.
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    • CraigR
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 965
      • USA

      #3
      Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

      found another 22uF cap under that shield and replaced now also with same result. Plugged in on bench and only have 165V at the big cap.

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      • CraigR
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Dec 2013
        • 965
        • USA

        #4
        Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

        I just pulled 7 of the ceramic caps (blue brown) and checked with my meter and those are ok also. I'm just lost on this one. Can anyone help?

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

          Can you post a picture of the bottom of the Power board - which cap did you think was the start up. C26? Can you have only the power supply connected and check the connector that goes to the main board for 5v standby? Have you checked diodes and resistors for open?
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 31183
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

            it's possible the shorted fets damaged whatever was supplying the signal to the gate pins.

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            • CraigR
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2013
              • 965
              • USA

              #7
              Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

              I replaced C15 and C26 I have zero volts on all the pins going to the main board Checked all diodes and resistors on top and are ok.
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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #8
                Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                last pic is not really clear enough for troubleshooting - perhaps try in 2 halves
                are the 4 black dots in a row the bridge rectifier? I usually try and find that to get my bearings
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • CraigR
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 965
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                  Not sure if this is any better. This is with my webcam. My regular camera wont focus that close.
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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                    So which two MOSFETs did you replace? The two next to each other are for driving the main transformer, the one by itself is for the PFC Voltage booster.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • CraigR
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 965
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                      one is at Q20 on big heatsink and the other is Q17 on other heatsink that are next to each other. I also just checked the surface resistors on the bottom for an open and nothing.

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                        Hi
                        Pics are a little better here is a sort of schematic


                        In with the group of secondary capacitors there is an inductor L2 can you test it for continuity.
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • CraigR
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 965
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                          L2 checks good!

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                          • CraigR
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 965
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                            On the underside there are 2 510k resistors connected together and put in some black shrink tube. I found that they were open so I ordered those and once I get those in I will report back.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                              Picture in post 2, it looks like one of the resistor (<1 Ohm) is for the Source pin and primary Ground (Negative leg of the main cap), and another resistor (in 1000'S of Ohms) is part of the snubber circuit.
                              Can you show the picture of the two resistors with the shrink tubing removed? Also the MOSFET for the PFC, when it shorted out it may have taken out the PFC IC also.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • CraigR
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 965
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                                Here is the picture where the 2 resistors came off and I circled where they connected. I also have a pic of the resistors. I did go and check all the mosfets and they checked out ok.
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                                • CraigR
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Dec 2013
                                  • 965
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                                  Well I replaced those 2 resistors today and still got squat.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                                    OK, those two 510K resistors are not the one I am asking about, they are these 3 resistors.
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                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • CraigR
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2013
                                      • 965
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                                      Here is a picture.
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                                      • CraigR
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 965
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: ilo V27DMBX dead totally

                                        Ended up scraping it out.

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