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  • ny_jets_head
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 70
    • usa

    #1

    Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

    When I got this unit it was dead, pulled the cover and found 4 bad caps.
    Replaced the caps, now it sings the Samsung song when I turns it on,
    It operates from the remote, I see the back light flash and then dim low.
    I hooked it up to the HDMI to see if I had sound didn't .
    I can't see anything on the screen.

    I checked over the Power supply and all the voltages are there within range except the 13V.. I read 12.7.
    There was a 1000 uf cap on that circuit which I changed still 12.7 V. I didnt chase down the regulator to see what it is supposed to output Its feed with 24V

    Is this an issue or is 12.7 OK?

    Any other suggestions.

    Thanks
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

    12.7V is OK for a 13V line, within tolerance.
    Did you reset EEPROM after cap replacement?
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • ny_jets_head
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
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      #3
      Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

      I did not reset the eprom
      Is there a "howto" for that?

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      • tibimakai
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2012
        • 3680
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

        If I remember correctly I had one of these and on mine it was a blown gamma chip on the T-con board which took out half the panel.
        Try removing the panel ribbons to the T-con board one at a time.
        You may have other issues, this is just what I have experienced.

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        • ny_jets_head
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

          Originally posted by tibimakai
          If I remember correctly I had one of these and on mine it was a blown gamma chip on the T-con board which took out half the panel.
          Try removing the panel ribbons to the T-con board one at a time.
          You may have other issues, this is just what I have experienced.
          Will do ... Thanks!

          I tried

          Samsung *****************************************-
          Mute 182 power (tv is off)

          But no change.

          I connected my laptop to it an it was recognized correctly but again no output.

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          • ivoh
            Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 41
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

            check all smd fuses on tcon and mainboard? IMO the no sound suggests that the mainboard is acting funky, are you sure you got in to the right input, volume turned up, not muted?

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            • ny_jets_head
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
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              • usa

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

              Update: disconnecting one side of the ribbon going to the panel from the TCON Produced a brighter flash during power on with just parts of the panel bars. I tried both sides and got similar results.

              Something must be causing the back light to shut down. It stays on briefly, just a flash and then goes off

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              • ny_jets_head
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 70
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                Originally posted by ivoh
                check all smd fuses on tcon and mainboard? IMO the no sound suggests that the mainboard is acting funky, are you sure you got in to the right input, volume turned up, not muted?
                Checked the fuses they are OK (Tcon and Mainboard , unsoldered the shielding to check what was under there as well.

                Checked that I had the volume up, mute off and cycled through the inputs as best I could without the visual.

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                • ny_jets_head
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 70
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                  If someone knows has a service manual on this unit it would be appricated

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                  • ny_jets_head
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 70
                    • usa

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                    Originally posted by ny_jets_head
                    If someone knows has a service manual on this unit it would be appricated
                    Please let me not close the door on suggestions..

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                    • ny_jets_head
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 70
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                      Once it start up I receive 5v on the Bk light on pin should fire the inverter board and keep it on ? as when unplugged I get 0v and no flash of the back light.

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                      • ny_jets_head
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 70
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                        Yup I'm an Idiot.. I guess being tired after work doesn't help..

                        New Info:
                        Its a back light issue Confirmed that the main board works I have picture and sound!

                        What I have:

                        BL/ on is 5v Which is good
                        VDIM is @ 3.5V
                        No back light , same as before just flashes when its powered on.
                        Checked the the fuses

                        Looking for advise on a starting point.
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by ny_jets_head; 06-19-2014, 05:59 AM.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                          Sometimes there is a little fuse on these, can't see it from your photos but make sure you check it. Often marked "75", "10", "15", or "20", black body.

                          Since it is a Darfon inverter check transformer secondaries too.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                            The small black fuse looks something like this, see F5. It is used a lot in CMO Inverter board
                            Attached Files
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • ny_jets_head
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 70
                              • usa

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                              Thanks guys
                              I'm pretty sure I check all of them.
                              They seem to be in sections, I think I found 3 of them.
                              I will double check

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                                Beside checking the inverter transformer resistance, the eight dual MOSFETs (4 small legs and big tab on top), and those 3 electrolytic caps ESR and capacitance should also be checked.
                                Last edited by budm; 06-19-2014, 09:22 AM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • bammbammfran
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2014
                                  • 476
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                                  Did you actually check to see what kind of voltage is getting to the inverter ?
                                  Picture is way to fuzzy for me to tell you where to start

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                                  • ny_jets_head
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Apr 2014
                                    • 70
                                    • usa

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                                    If you are referring to my posted pic ... Sorry my cell phone was what I had handy before I left the house this morning.

                                    I also have 24V,

                                    So if I 5V for Back light on /off , 3.5V on Dim from the PS to the inverter.
                                    Anything voltage wise on the inverter I should look for?

                                    I'm assuming if one of the xformers is bad I'm looking for a short or open.
                                    The short should blow a fuse or it has a way of shutting down which is what it seems to be doing.
                                    Last edited by ny_jets_head; 06-19-2014, 09:40 AM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                                      Post the P/N as printed on the transformers so we can look for the pinout.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • bammbammfran
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2014
                                        • 476
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN-T3753H Nothing on the screen no sound

                                        Originally posted by ny_jets_head
                                        If you are referring to my posted pic ... Sorry my cell phone was what I had handy before I left the house this morning.

                                        I also have 24V,

                                        So if I 5V for Back light on /off , 3.5V on Dim from the PS to the inverter.
                                        Anything voltage wise on the inverter I should look for?

                                        I'm assuming if one of the xformers is bad I'm looking for a short or open.
                                        The short should blow a fuse or it has a way of shutting down which is what it seems to be doing.
                                        ok
                                        so voltages look good
                                        bad transformer may not blow a fuse
                                        They may show an open reading on the output side where the bulbs plug in

                                        a shorted transistor might blow a fuse if it is really shorted

                                        compare each transformer outputs to each other
                                        and check each pin on the 8 transistors to each other. Large tab to small pins on one side then to small pins on the other side then small pins to small pins

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