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  • noahf
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 12
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

    When first switching on, the left half of the screen is black. Over the next half hour it changes to vertical stripes, then flickering. Even after an hour, the left half shows occasional artefacts. The behaviour is sensitive to mechanical shock. A judicious 'thump' on the top right area of the bezel can change the patterning and occasionally will clear all flickering. After a couple of hours, the picture is stable. Switching off, and then on again after 10 minutes causes the flickering to restart.

    I have opened it up and have tried nudging each connector and each wire in each harness and cable, flexing each PCB, local cooling (spray), without any clear result. I have removed and cleaned every visible connector. I have replaced the T-CON board.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!
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  • Dgtech
    E. Technician
    • Apr 2009
    • 1462
    • Steeler

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

    Something may be overheating
    The strong-minded rise to the challenge of their goals,the weak-minded BECOME HATERS

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

      It may have problem with the TFT driver ICs over heating, they are mounted on the flexible PCB between the long rigid pcb and the LCD glass panel.
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      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
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      • noahf
        Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 12
        • United Kingdom

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

        Thanks for the quick response! However, I doubt that overheating could be the cause. The problem is worst when cold. After 30-60 minutes operation we get a normal (full) picture with no artefacts.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

          This is almost certainly a tab bond issue as Budm described. It is less overheating and more when the temperature hits an acceptable level the TV can work because everything is making good contact due to thermal expansion.
          It's extremely common on Samsung TVs although I believe your set has an AUO panel it does happen with some AUO panels too.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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          • noahf
            Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 12
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

            Tom66 -- excellent! Well, more objectively, your diagnosis aligns with my own feelings that the culprit is a cracked solder joint and thermal contraction/expansion. Now, my question is what's the minimum replaceable unit? Is this flexible PC removable and available, or is it permanently bonded to the LCD panel? Anyone know?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

              Bonded to the LCD panel.

              A temporary (sometimes permanent) fix is to apply a "shim" to the tab bond to hold it in place. This will apply pressure to the tab IC or tab bond, preventing the issue from occurring.

              However, it doesn't always work, and isn't always permanent.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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              • truep
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Aug 2010
                • 373
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

                Use heat transfer pads to shim the tab bonds.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

                  Examples:
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...LN52A530P1FXZA

                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37887

                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37885
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • noahf
                    Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 12
                    • United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE37A656 - half a picture for half an hour

                    There is a PCB assembly mounted on the upper rear of the LCD panel under a metal cover. It is connected to the T-CON board by two wire bundles. It is also connected by two ribbon cables to two long, thin PCB assemblies mounted on the top edge of the LCD panel. Each of these, in turn is connected to the LCD by four flexible printed circuits mentioned by Budm. (Sorry, I couldn't find the official name for each of these PCAs.)

                    So I removed, cleaned and reinserted the ribbon cables at both ends and used electrical insulating tape to apply pressure to the flexible PCs and to the long thin PCAs. The only visible hint was on one of the ribbon cables, where a few of the tracks had degraded at one end. Anyway, for now the TV picture is good as soon as I switch on! No way of knowing how long this will last, but it's satisfying finally to have traced the source.

                    Thanks for all your help!

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