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  • anotherdude
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2013
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    #1

    ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

    Tv turns on with a white flash on the screen then darkness

    Had a few bulging 35v caps which have now been replaced but made no difference

    likely a shorted panel or bad inverter?
  • cheapie
    null
    • Jul 2010
    • 849
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    #2
    Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

    By "darkness", do you mean no backlight, or no picture? Shine a flashlight at the panel and see if you can make out a picture.

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    • anotherdude
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      #3
      Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

      Originally posted by cheapie
      By "darkness", do you mean no backlight, or no picture? Shine a flashlight at the panel and see if you can make out a picture.
      it's sealed off at the moment will have to strip it down first

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      • cheapie
        null
        • Jul 2010
        • 849
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        #4
        Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

        Originally posted by anotherdude
        it's sealed off at the moment will have to strip it down first
        Huh? I meant just turn it on (fully assembled), wait for it to go dark, and shine a flashlight on the screen up close to see if it's showing anything at all.

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        • anotherdude
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          #5
          Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

          Originally posted by cheapie
          Huh? I meant just turn it on (fully assembled), wait for it to go dark, and shine a flashlight on the screen up close to see if it's showing anything at all.
          sorry yes i've tried that previously on a another backlight problem'd tv and could never see the image from the front only from the back when shining a torch

          it is the backlight that flshes very briefly as soon as the tv is turned on
          Last edited by anotherdude; 05-22-2014, 12:00 PM.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

            Any good pictures of the inverter board, power supply board?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

              Do you get a brief blue LED light on the inverter board?
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              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • anotherdude
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                • Feb 2013
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                #8
                Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                great, removing the frames from around the tv to access the inverter, got access to it, must of forgot to screw one of the screws back into the frame for the power supply and caused a short when i plugged it back in

                next thing i know the powers tripped and now have no standby light
                Last edited by anotherdude; 05-22-2014, 01:52 PM.

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                • anotherdude
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                  • Feb 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                  heres a shot of the power board anyway

                  and what maybe the cause of my no standby now?
                  Attached Files

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                    You've probably popped the fuse.
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                    • anotherdude
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                      #11
                      Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      You've probably popped the fuse.
                      thats what I thought but i'm getting 124v on the heatsinks near the large cap
                      Last edited by anotherdude; 05-22-2014, 02:24 PM.

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                      • tom66
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                        #12
                        Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                        That means very little because the heatsinks are connected to a pair of class Y caps which are sometimes before the fuse.
                        You should try checking the fuse directly...
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                        • anotherdude
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                          #13
                          Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          That means very little because the heatsinks are connected to a pair of class Y caps which are sometimes before the fuse.
                          You should try checking the fuse directly...
                          fuse tests good, also seeing voltage on the tops of the smaller caps

                          little to no voltage secondary side

                          the first picture i uploaded is it supposed to look like that? there are others with the spacer on but none have that green wierd colour on them
                          Last edited by anotherdude; 05-22-2014, 02:31 PM.

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                          • tom66
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                            • Apr 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                            Any standby voltage? Try without main board. Check voltage across 450V cap. Check voltage across C31,C32,C33,C34, and one small cap near the big 450V cap.
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                            • anotherdude
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                              #15
                              Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Any standby voltage? Try without main board. Check voltage across 450V cap. Check voltage across C31,C32,C33,C34, and one small cap near the big 450V cap.
                              no standby voltage, nothing on any of the pins leading to the main board

                              big cap = 124v
                              c31 = 117v
                              c32 = 122v and dropping
                              c33 = 122v and dropping
                              c34 = 119v and dropping

                              cap near large cap 122v

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                              • tom66
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                                #16
                                Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                                124V is that ACROSS the cap i.e. red on positive, black on negative. Same for other caps.
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                                • anotherdude
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                                  #17
                                  Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  124V is that ACROSS the cap i.e. red on positive, black on negative. Same for other caps.
                                  no sorry tom was meausring across the top

                                  can't reallly measure the other caps as there on the underside but will try later

                                  but the big cap measures 327v

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                                  • anotherdude
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                                    #18
                                    Re: ELONEX JC378BB13E Screen Flashes

                                    anyone able to advise on where to go from here, can't seem to spot the problem or bad partt

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