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  • triplefour
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    • May 2014
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    #81
    Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

    yeah thats what i thought too, thanks for clarifying

    hmm so a resistance tells us there is another component between that pin and the capacitor? and you are assuming it would be a MOSFET?
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    • triplefour
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      #82
      Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

      is there no way to get a schematic for this board? or would i be able to tell more by flipping the board over?
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      • budm
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        • Feb 2010
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        #83
        Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

        "hmm so a resistance tells us there is another component between that pin and the capacitor? and you are assuming it would be a MOSFET?" That is it, you need to find the one that shows less than one Ohm, so just have to start probing all the devices close by that area, one those device must be the one.
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        • triplefour
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          #84
          Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

          so im going to keep one probe on the top left pin of the mx-12G MOSFET
          and touch any other mosfet's around that area? and look for one that has less than 1ohm resistance?
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          • budm
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            #85
            Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

            You will keep one probe on pin 30 of J8 or the positive leg of the cap CE65, then use the probe on other semiconductor devices that may have 3 pins or 8 pins, one of device will show <1 Ohm. Using pin 30 will be the easiest.
            Last edited by budm; 05-14-2014, 09:53 PM.
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            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • triplefour
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              #86
              Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

              ok i tested the resistance between the points circled in the picture and i got .03 or .04 so the top left pin of the mosfet is going directly to those 2 points?
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              • budm
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                #87
                Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                Is it .03 Ohms, or .03K Ohms on the meter? it should show the same resistance when you touch the two probes of the meter together.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • triplefour
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                  #88
                  Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                  i have my meter on the lowest setting "200ohms" so when it says .03 i beleive it to be .03 ohms
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                  • triplefour
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                    #89
                    Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                    when i touch the 2 probes together i get 0.02 resistance
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                    • budm
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                      #90
                      Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                      If that is the case, then that pin should show the same voltage reading as shown on pin 30 of J8 then, please verify.
                      If is does show the same reading, then next thing we need to find out which one of the pin of that IC has 12Vdc on it.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • budm
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                        #91
                        Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                        I am still not believe that is MX-12 because there is white pad the right of it with printing that looks like the indication for FIRMWARE version for VO37 AUO for that MX IC.
                        I would try probing some more resistance between pin 30 and some other devices to see if it also shows <1 Ohm.
                        Last edited by budm; 05-14-2014, 10:29 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • triplefour
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                          #92
                          Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                          what do u mean? it says mx-12G right on it...hang on checking voltages
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                          • budm
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                            #93
                            Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                            OK, I verify that MX-12G, it is not the MOSFET we are looking for,
                            MX-12G 25L3205DM2i is the serial flash chip.
                            http://www.alldatasheet.com/datashee...5DM2I-12G.html
                            Last edited by budm; 05-14-2014, 10:38 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • triplefour
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                              • May 2014
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                              #94
                              Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                              ok if we say the top left pin is pin1 voltages on the mx12g are
                              1. 3.29
                              2. 3.29
                              3. 0
                              4. 0

                              5. 3.29
                              6. 0
                              7. 3.29
                              8. 0

                              voltage to cb57 and cb58 on the sides circled is also 3.29v
                              but the voltages on the other side is 0

                              im getting a bit confused here. there is no 12v coming out of the mx12g at all
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                              • triplefour
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                                #95
                                Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                wow how'd u find that datasheet i was trying so hard!
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                                • budm
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                                  #96
                                  Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                  See post 93 I just updated, it is serial flash, not the MOSFET we are looking for.
                                  When I saw that white pad with those info, then I know it is not the one we are looking for.
                                  Last edited by budm; 05-14-2014, 10:40 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • triplefour
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                                    • May 2014
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                                    #97
                                    Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                    jeez i dont even see how that tag is related to that chip...

                                    what are we looking for again?
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                                    • triplefour
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                                      #98
                                      Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                      we're trying to figure out why j30 is zero. it should be 12v, right?
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                                      • budm
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                                        #99
                                        Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                        Yes, there is a MOSFET some where that is bad or it is not turned on, 12V will go into one pin of the MOSFET and comes out on another pin when the Gate is driven by the processor on the main board. We are woking blind right now without the diagram, that is why using Ohm meter is the only way to find out where that pin 30 is connected to. You are doing the resistance testing with TV unplugged, right?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • triplefour
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                                          • May 2014
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                                          #100
                                          Re: VIZIO V037L FHDTV20A powers up, backlight on, sound works, buttons work, no pict

                                          yes tv is unplugged for resistances, and turned on for voltages
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