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  • joehezzer
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jul 2012
    • 251
    • England

    #21
    Re: usp440m-42lp psu

    Originally posted by wills123
    i recently just did one of theese, managed to get a psu from ebay for £30 delievered, the one i had , b/r shorted and a load of mosfets ,so got another board
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4004140660...84.m1497.l2649
    it wasnt really worth doing but my missus likes the tv an for keeping her quiet............... priceless
    Is that the same psu

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    • wills123
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 72
      • england

      #22
      Re: usp440m-42lp psu

      its not exactly the same but i found it was an equivilant for the one i had, i think it was shopjimmy listed is an equiviliant, you would have to double your part number against it

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      • joehezzer
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jul 2012
        • 251
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        #23
        Re: usp440m-42lp psu

        Originally posted by wills123
        its not exactly the same but i found it was an equivilant for the one i had, i think it was shopjimmy listed is an equiviliant, you would have to double your part number against it
        ok just had a look at shopjimmy and that is the substitute part have you the same 42" plasma screen !!!!

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        • paulstef
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          • Dec 2013
          • 724
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          #24
          Re: usp440m-42lp psu

          Joe,

          could you do me a favor and measure the voltage over ZD501 and ZD502?

          I'm having the same problem but at least VA and all low voltages are working now after I swapped some caps.

          Thanks

          See my thread here:https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36026

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          • joehezzer
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jul 2012
            • 251
            • England

            #25
            Re: usp440m-42lp psu

            Originally posted by paulstef
            Joe,

            could you do me a favor and measure the voltage over ZD501 and ZD502?

            I'm having the same problem but at least VA and all low voltages are working now after I swapped some caps.

            Thanks

            See my thread here:https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36026
            hi paul yes will give it a go bud, but the problem i have i have no voltage anywhere, i do not even have a standby light nothing, i am wondering if something on the hot side of the board is dead, hence no power any where else, i will check for u though just incase

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            • paulstef
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              • Dec 2013
              • 724
              • Canada

              #26
              Re: usp440m-42lp psu

              In post #14 you said you have 5VCtrl. You should also have 5Vsb.

              What comes out of the PFC?

              If you have 5Vsb you could try to disconnect everything and drive RLY-ON directly from Vsb via a resistor maybe.

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              • joehezzer
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jul 2012
                • 251
                • England

                #27
                Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                Originally posted by paulstef
                In post #14 you said you have 5VCtrl. You should also have 5Vsb.

                What comes out of the PFC?

                If you have 5Vsb you could try to disconnect everything and drive RLY-ON directly from Vsb via a resistor maybe.
                i was looking for the standby point to measure i could only see the 5v control point, i had no voltage from anything

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                • paulstef
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 724
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                  #28
                  Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                  Ok,

                  1. measure from cathode of D103 to the long heatsink (that's primary ground) . When plugged in you should have immediately 170VDC (for 120VAC input). What's the voltage?

                  2.
                  If you can't measure 5Vsb on CN801 but you can measure Vctrl on CN805 I could check how they are linked.

                  Before turning on the unit through 5Vsb - RLY-ON - VS-ON the only power supply that works is the one with the NCP1203. If you have voltage on the ZD501 and ZD502 this chip works. What's the voltage over these two zener diodes?

                  An oscilloscope would help.

                  EDIT: I think the voltage in UK is 230VAC? In this case you should have about 325VDC from cathode of D103 to heatsink
                  Last edited by paulstef; 03-11-2014, 12:36 PM.

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                  • joehezzer
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 251
                    • England

                    #29
                    Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                    give me 5

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                    • wills123
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 72
                      • england

                      #30
                      Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                      Originally posted by joehezzer
                      ok just had a look at shopjimmy and that is the substitute part have you the same 42" plasma screen !!!!
                      i think its basically the same mine is branded as a tevion but alot scrrens seem to share those same innards

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                      • joehezzer
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 251
                        • England

                        #31
                        Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                        D103 reads 01.2 vdc 01.3 vac i am gonna pull diodes and test them and see if they are shot
                        Last edited by joehezzer; 03-11-2014, 12:47 PM.

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                        • joehezzer
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 251
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                          #32
                          Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                          Originally posted by wills123
                          i think its basically the same mine is branded as a tevion but alot scrrens seem to share those same innards
                          i see
                          Last edited by joehezzer; 03-11-2014, 12:47 PM.

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                          • paulstef
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                            • Dec 2013
                            • 724
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                            #33
                            Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                            Oops, that's not good. I didn't analyze that part of the circuit because mine is working. I'll have a look at it.

                            Where exactly you say you had 5V?

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                            • paulstef
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 724
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                              #34
                              Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                              Do you have a voltage at the output of the bridge rectifier BD101? It's the two outer pins.

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                              • joehezzer
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 251
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                                #35
                                Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                Originally posted by paulstef
                                Do you have a voltage at the output of the bridge rectifier BD101? It's the two outer pins.
                                Very minimal voltage botton pin 01.6 upper pin 01.4 v

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                                • joehezzer
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jul 2012
                                  • 251
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                                  #36
                                  Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                  Originally posted by paulstef
                                  Oops, that's not good. I didn't analyze that part of the circuit because mine is working. I'll have a look at it.

                                  Where exactly you say you had 5V?
                                  its dead all over i found somewhere that the big blue relay could be at fault
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                                  Last edited by joehezzer; 03-11-2014, 12:59 PM.

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                                  • paulstef
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                                    • Dec 2013
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                                    #37
                                    Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                    If you don't have DC voltage between pin "+" and "-" of the bridge rectifier then it is either faulty or there is no AC coming in.

                                    Measure AC between the two inner pins of the bridge rectifier. If there is none then follow the two traces back.

                                    What's the voltage on TNR 102? The green round component right beside R105 R106?

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                                    • paulstef
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2013
                                      • 724
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                                      #38
                                      Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                      The blue relay only bridges the two white resistors when you turn on the TV. It limits the inrush current when the two big caps are discharged and you plug the TV in.

                                      Normally AC goes through the two resistors. There should DC on the big caps even when the relay is OFF.

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                                      • paulstef
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 724
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                                        #39
                                        Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                        Check the resistors R105 R106. Mine are 20R each. Yours could be different since we have 120VAC here.

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                                        • joehezzer
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                                          • Jul 2012
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                                          #40
                                          Re: usp440m-42lp psu

                                          Originally posted by paulstef
                                          If you don't have DC voltage between pin "+" and "-" of the bridge rectifier then it is either faulty or there is no AC coming in.

                                          Measure AC between the two inner pins of the bridge rectifier. If there is none then follow the two traces back.

                                          What's the voltage on TNR 102? The green round component right beside R105 R106?
                                          voltage on TNR 102 00.3v

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