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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

    it is the same board as shopjimmy.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • selldoor
      Slow Learner
      • Dec 2010
      • 7870

      #22
      Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

      Yes both I know its the same board but it wont have any indications of problems.
      Its my own fault - I usually check before I start but it was a quick look before tea
      and didnt read all the thread - just scrolled up to the pics. Sorry for sounding off just annoyed with myself I suppose.
      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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      • tibimakai
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2012
        • 3680
        • USA

        #23
        Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

        I had time to take a shot of the IC. Here it is:
        https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...a5e745a1f3.pdf
        Attached Files
        Last edited by tibimakai; 01-10-2014, 07:25 PM.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

          OK, take the resistance reading between Ground pin against all other the pins of the IC, then take DC voltage readings of all the pin with ref to the ground pin (or the negative legs of one of the two small filter caps for this stby section).
          Attached Files
          Last edited by budm; 01-10-2014, 07:44 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • tibimakai
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2012
            • 3680
            • USA

            #25
            Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

            Vcc fluctuates a lot. I see from 10.xV to 17.xV fluctuation.
            There is no short or low OHm resistance, between any of the pins.
            Pin #4 it oscillates a bit and keeps rising slightly.
            Pin #1= 0V
            Pin #2= 4.98V
            Pin #3= 0V
            Pin #4= 0.044V ~ & rising slightly
            Pin #5= 163V
            Pin #7= 10.xV-17.xV
            Pin #9= 0V

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

              Try changing the startup cap, it should be connected to the VCC pin of the IC.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • tibimakai
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2012
                • 3680
                • USA

                #27
                Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                Good idea, I will do that. Thank you.

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                • tibimakai
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 3680
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                  That capacitor it was good, but I have replaced it anyway. Didn't fixed the issue.
                  What is weird, that if I measure Vac, it shows a constant 6.5Vac.
                  One of the diodes could be bad?

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                  • tibimakai
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 3680
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                    Any other ideas?

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                      If startup capacitor doesn't fix it replace the IC.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • tibimakai
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 3680
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                        I have replaced the IC, but it didn't help.
                        I'm measuring a 0.4-0.5V at standby with some oscillation.
                        The Vcc at the IC it's still oscillating as before.
                        I have measured 4.5V and 3.7V at the primary side of the optocuplors, but only 0.4-0.5V at the secondary side. Not sure what it means, but I thought that I should mention it anyway.
                        Any other ideas?

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                        • tibimakai
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 3680
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                          Any more ideas?
                          Why would the Vcc for the IC would fluctuate?

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                          • tibimakai
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 3680
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                            I'm reading this ICs datasheet and I have found this:
                            "The Control Unit contains the functions for Active Burst
                            Mode and Auto Restart Mode. The Active Burst Mode
                            and the Auto Restart Mode both have 20ms internal
                            Blanking Time. For the Auto Restart Mode, a further
                            extendable Blanking Time is achieved by adding
                            external capacitor at BA pin. By means of this Blanking
                            Time, the IC avoids entering into these two modes
                            accidentally."
                            It could be that capacitor is bad?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                              When the power is first applied to the circuit, the start up cap will get the charge up current through the Start-up cell which is connected through the D pin of the SMPS IC, once the voltage on the start up reaches 18V for the turn threshold (10.5V for shutoff threshold). The burst mode during power saving just to keep the circuit alive when the load is light load (in standby). So try having a load (1/2A) connected so it will not kick in the power saving mode. It seems to me that it is trying to start but the VOLTAGE from the AUX winding of the transformer for keeping it running is not there. The Resistor Cs is OK?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • tibimakai
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 3680
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                It seems like it's turning on and off. It's in this cycle.
                                I will have to check that resistor.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                  Try having the load connected.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • tibimakai
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 3680
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                    I don't understand, which load?

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                      Load at the output for this power supply section.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • tibimakai
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 3680
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                        Should I add a bulb?

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 32560
                                          • UK

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 42LV3500 trips circuit breaker

                                          I think budm means board connected as usual, e.g. main board and LED backlight.
                                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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