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  • snipersquad100
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    #1

    Panasonic TX-P37X20B

    I got a Panasonic TX-P37X20B with no power and 13 red LED flashes. A google serch says it's a emergency sos on the "A" board which is the main av board. Is there a text I can do to prove this? I disconnected the y and x boards but same problem remains. The power board isn't giving any secrets as to voltages to check.
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  • tw2005
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    #2
    Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

    Originally posted by snipersquad100
    I got a Panasonic TX-P37X20B with no power and 13 red LED flashes. A google serch says it's a emergency sos on the "A" board which is the main av board. Is there a text I can do to prove this? I disconnected the y and x boards but same problem remains. The power board isn't giving any secrets as to voltages to check.
    Sounds like A board. P42C2E, same A board and PSU SOS 13

    That A board looks worked on? that white connector with no plug in center top, is that badly corroded / shorting?

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    • snipersquad100
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      #3
      Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

      Its a pretty new set, very clean inside. the connector is not corroded see pic.
      I got some blinking information (pardon the pun) on the led flashes codes in case someone needs it in the future.



      =================================================================================
      BLINKS PROBLEM CHECK POINT
      =================================================================================

      1 blink Panel Info SOS * No Info Given *
      LP1 Start SOS

      3 blinks P+ 3.3v SOS A-Board

      4 blinks Power SOS P Main-Board / P Sub-Board
      P-Board / P2-Board

      5 blinks P+ 5v SOS A-Board

      6 blinks Driver SOS 1 SC-Board / A-SC FPC
      SC Energy Recovery Circuit
      A-SC FPC DET

      7 blinks Driver SOS 2 SU-Board / SD-Board
      SU/SD Connector DET
      SU/SD Scan and Logic IC

      8 blinks Driver SOS 3 SS-Board / SS2-Board / SS FPC / SS2 FPC
      SS FPC Detect
      SS Energy Recovery Circuit

      9 blinks Discharge Control SOS A-Board

      10 blinks Sub 5V SOS / Sub 3.3v SOS A-Board / SC-Board / SS-Board / P Main-Board / P Sub-Board
      Tuner Power SOS

      11 blinks Fan SOS A-Board / Fan

      12 blinks Sound SOS A-Board / Speaker / Woofer

      13 blinks Emergency SOS A-Board

      14 blinks IR LED SOS A-Board



      BOARDS DESCRIPTION:

      P MAIN Board = Power Supply (VT30 Models) - Non-serviceable. Must be replaced for service.
      P SUB Board = Power Supply (VT30 Models) - Non-serviceable. Must be replaced for service.

      P Board = Power Supply (All Other Models)
      P2 Board = Power Supply (All Other Models)
      A Board = Main AV Input / Processing
      K Board = Remote Receiver / Power LED / C.A.T.S. Sensor
      S Board = Power Switch
      V Board = 3D Eyewear Transmitter
      C1 Board = Data Driver (Lower Right)
      C2 Board = Data Driver (Lower Center)
      C3 Board = Data Driver (Lower Left)
      SC Board = Scan Drive
      SS Board = Sustain Drive
      SS2 Board = Sustain Out (Lower)
      SU Board = Scan Out (Upper) - Non serviceable. Must be replaced for service.
      SD Board = Scan Out (Lower) - Non serviceable. Must be replaced for service.
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      • tw2005
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        #4
        Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

        The 42 will be close enough for the PSU and A board
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        • snipersquad100
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          #5
          Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

          Thank you

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          • tw2005
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            #6
            Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

            Those blink codes are from what manual? I'd expect the SOS the same for the 42 and the 37 since they both have the same TNPH0829 A board the difference should be just the data loaded on the eeproms/flash ics.

            Don't see 13 blink, stops at 12 but probably does not mean it can't generate a 13 blink, just not mentioned. that post I linked has the same A and he reported 13, new A board fixed it.

            Yeah, second shot much clearer of that connector, looked funny in the earlier shots.
            Last edited by tw2005; 01-02-2014, 08:46 AM.

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            • tw2005
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              Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

              Actually, 13 blinks was sounding familiar to me. I have a 42X20A, same generation, different A board TNPH0840 but very similar.

              During an eeprom swap/conversion I created a 13 blink, mine stops at 12 in the manual too.

              This is what I wrote "After doing all 4 I had SOS9-discharge control SOS, A-board. Looking at the cct I went for IC9304, swapped the other 42" FHD IC9304 - 13 blink- no such code.
              Rechecked my work, found bridged resistor pack R8922 which sits right next to 48pin IC8921 NAND Flash- must have brushed it with the tip."

              If I was going to have a guess, IC8921 on yours might be bad or corrupted or maybe a power supply issue to it, 3.3 volts supplied at pins 12, 37, gnd at 36,13. Page 50 in that manual.

              I think it may be hiding under the alloy heatsink on yours or underside. 48pin , thin rectangular chip. may have a white label with TVRR431 on it.

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              • snipersquad100
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                #8
                Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                The codes are from this web site. http://www.highdefjunkies.com/plasma...on-thread.html
                I've ordered a main board off ebay. cross fingers.

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                • tw2005
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                  Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                  I've done this on that model whilst I was mucking around with the chips, if you remove the 3 white ribbons, I also disconnected vsus from SC,Ss and P35 for vda to the c boards, power up the Tv and if it still blinks 13 in this case it has to be the A board, I don't think it could come from anywhere else really.

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                  • tw2005
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                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                    Originally posted by snipersquad100
                    The codes are from this web site. http://www.highdefjunkies.com/plasma...on-thread.html
                    I've ordered a main board off ebay. cross fingers.
                    Yeah, so it's the 2010 list you should go by not the 2011 but I reckon it will be a comms issue on the A , which is how they expand on that 13 blink in one of the 2011 guides I looked at.

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                    • tw2005
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                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                      Stating the obvious but it was the same rev, for a 37" that you ordered?

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                      • snipersquad100
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                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                        how do you release those ribbon cables ?

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                        • tom66
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                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                          Flip latch and pull lightly on the cable. Very lightly.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • snipersquad100
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                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                            it's a flip up from the back. hate opening strange connectors for the first time.
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                            • snipersquad100
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                              #15
                              Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                              I disconnected the 3 ribbon cables and the p35 cable but where is the vsus from SC,Ss .

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                              • snipersquad100
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                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                                is it p2?

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                                • snipersquad100
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                                  if it is p2 then it still blinking 13 times.

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                                  • snipersquad100
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                                    update, I put a new "2nd hand off ebay" board in and now im getting 4 red blinks instead of 13

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                                    • tw2005
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                                      Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                                      Originally posted by snipersquad100
                                      update, I put a new "2nd hand off ebay" board in and now im getting 4 red blinks instead of 13
                                      So you've got a double fault but surprised the SOS 4 did not show previous, maybe the faulty A was unable to process it.

                                      has this got a TNPA5072 SS board? Most likely shorted vsus.

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                                      • tw2005
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                                        Re: Panasonic TX-P37X20B

                                        I missed your P2 question but if the power was removed from the Sc,SS, ribbons removed and p 35 disconnected then The A was faulty.

                                        I had the same deal but in reverse for my 42X20. had SOS4 (shorted SS) then cleared that and ended up with SOS1 A board. I must say that sucks getting a double whammy.

                                        Edit:
                                        So that would be P2/SC2, P11/SS11, P35, 3 white ribbons disconnected power on and still have 13 blinks.

                                        Hope you don't tell me the SS was still connected when you did the test.
                                        Last edited by tw2005; 01-06-2014, 04:49 AM.

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