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  • WumpusRX
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    • Oct 2013
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    #1

    Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

    The TV was turned on being used for my computer. The screen went completely blank. No picture no sound. The blue LED stayed on steady.

    I took the back of the TV off and did a thorough look over of the connections and boards. Nothing looked unusual, out of place, or broken.

    I took some voltage readings from the supply board connectors. They are as follows.

    5V - 5.01
    5V - 5.01
    PSON - 3.473
    24V - 24.34
    24V - 24.34
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    12V - 12
    12V - 12
    DIM - 3.216
    ON/OFF - 3.318

    Blank
    Blank
    Blank
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    24V - 24.34
    24V - 24.34
    24V - 24.34
    24V - 24.34
    24V - 24.34

    DIM - 3.216
    ON/OFF - 3.318
    ENABLE - 2.539
    next 5 are GND and are all 0 Volts
    next 5 are all 24 V and are all 24.36 V

    5V - 5
    5V - 5
    PS - 3.471
    24V - 24.33
    24V - 24.33
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    12V - 12
    12V - 12
    ON/OFF - 3.317
    DIM - 3.215

    I'm stumped.....
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

    You have all correct signals, but do you see any glow on the screen at all? We need to find out if the backlights are on but no pictures, or backlights are not on. Pictures of the boards?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • WumpusRX
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      • Oct 2013
      • 25
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      #3
      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

      I can get pics of the boards when I get home today. I notice when I turn the TV on there is a brief flash of white light from the screen and then nothing. I'll take some more readings on the other connectors as well.

      Any other suggestions for diagnostics would be awesome as well.

      Thank you for the reply budm.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

        I think you have inverter or lamps problem. That is more like 2-second to black problem.
        Will wait for pictures so I can tell you the test points to test.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • WumpusRX
          Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 25
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          #5
          Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

          Here are some pics. If you need something more detailed let me know.
          Attached Files

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

            You have CMO inverter. There is a fuse marked 1A/76V usually. Check this fuse is not blown.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • WumpusRX
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              • Oct 2013
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              #7
              Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

              Found one that read 0.75A/76V. Checked the resistance. 000.1 Ohm.


              Here is a crappy cell picture I took.
              Attached Files

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                OK, do you see any other fuses? Are any of these blown?
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • WumpusRX
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                  #9
                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                  The other fuses on the inverter board are reading 0 Ohms F401 on my main (logic) board is reading .9 Ohms.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                    OK, do you have 24V at both ends of each fuse on the inverter?
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • WumpusRX
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                      #11
                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                      No....unless I'm measuring the wrong component.

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                        What component are you measuring? A picture would help.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • WumpusRX
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                          #13
                          Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                          These jammies circled in red.
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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                            There is a white flat ribbon cable the goes from the inverter board to the T-CON board connector CON1, disconnect that cable to see if the backlights will come on. This TV has dimming control for contrast enhancement.
                            By the way, fuses on both inverters are good and getting 24vdc on both ends of the fuses?
                            Last edited by budm; 10-30-2013, 08:58 AM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • WumpusRX
                              Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 25
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                              budm,

                              I'm going to check everything again because I may be mistaken about the voltages. The continuity check was ok but I wasn't seeing any voltage through the fuses. I will also try to upload a video of what the screen is actually doing. I will also do what you suggested with the ribbon cable. When you say both inverters you mean both the Master and Slave Boards?

                              Thank you for being patient with me. I am total newb when it comes to electronic hardware. I'm learning things though.

                              Also, would a bad inverter or T-CON account for my loss of sound as well? I assumed everything went through the Main Board where all of the peripheral connections are.

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                              • truep
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                                • Aug 2010
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                                #16
                                Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                How are you measuring the voltage "through the fuses" Check both sides to chassis ground.

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                                • WumpusRX
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                                  • Oct 2013
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                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                  Yeah I didn't have a good ground when I was checking the fuses. Brain fart.

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                                  • WumpusRX
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                                    • Oct 2013
                                    • 25
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                    HOKAY!! All of the fuses on the inverter boards are getting 24VDC on both sides. Good.

                                    budm, I disconnected the white ribbon cable from the CON1 connector and the back light DID come on!

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                                    • WumpusRX
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                      What does this all mean?

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                        The white ribbon cable is the inverter sync cable from the t-con, so most likely you have a defective t-con board keeping the inverter from lighting up.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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