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  • justjoe
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    • May 2013
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    #21
    Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

    Originally posted by tom66
    Can we get a close up of this sticker too? We can perhaps look up the panel datasheet from it.
    OK thanks I will do that, ive just soldered the cap back on and the picture is fading in quickly then fading our slowly and does that every 5 or 10 seconds, same symptoms basically so its not the cap.

    I will go take those pics.

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    • justjoe
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      #22
      Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

      Originally posted by tom66
      can we get a close up of this sticker too? We can perhaps look up the panel datasheet from it.
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      • justjoe
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        #23
        Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

        Originally posted by tom66
        Red probe on the exposed metal around each pin leaving the power supply.
        Do you mean these pins?

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        • tom66
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          #24
          Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

          No. The main board has video inputs like HDMI, scart on it.

          You want to follow the connectors from the main board, any one which goes to the power supply you need to test.

          The TV should be powered on.
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          • justjoe
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            #25
            Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

            Originally posted by tom66
            No. The main board has video inputs like HDMI, scart on it.

            You want to follow the connectors from the main board, any one which goes to the power supply you need to test.

            The TV should be powered on.
            ok i will go give that a try thanks, do i need the datasheet to find out what the correct readings should be?
            Last edited by justjoe; 05-09-2013, 02:39 PM.

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            • justjoe
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              #26
              Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

              I think I found the datasheet

              http://www.panelook.com/V390HJ1-L02_...ter_15149.html

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              • tom66
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                #27
                Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                The datasheet is not currently necessary, however, it may prove useful later.
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                • justjoe
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                  #28
                  Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  The datasheet is not currently necessary, however, it may prove useful later.
                  ok heres the voltages...

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                  • tom66
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                    #29
                    Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                    Did you test with the connectors in place? This must be done to provide a "load" to the board. If you did so the power supply would appear to be good.

                    The next stop is to look at the main board. Do you see that long thin black cable going from the main board to the top of the LCD screen? Can you get a picture around the connector for it on the main board?
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                    • justjoe
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                      #30
                      Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      Did you test with the connectors in place? This must be done to provide a "load" to the board. If you did so the power supply would appear to be good.

                      The next stop is to look at the main board. Do you see that long thin black cable going from the main board to the top of the LCD screen? Can you get a picture around the connector for it on the main board?
                      Yes they were connected and tv powered up.

                      Heres the pic...

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                      • tom66
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                        #31
                        Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                        Good, thanks. Can you check the voltage on the top left pin of that connector with and without the cable installed?
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                        • justjoe
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                          #32
                          Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          Good, thanks. Can you check the voltage on the top left pin of that connector with and without the cable installed?
                          ok its reading 12.84v both connected and disconnected.

                          Do you think this is looking like a new mobo replacement? because its hard to find one and i guess they are expensive.

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                          • tom66
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                            #33
                            Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                            That's good, then.

                            It's looking like a panel problem to me.

                            One more thing to confirm: Can you upload a video of the problem? I'm struggling to imagine it well enough.
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                            • justjoe
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                              #34
                              Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              That's good, then.

                              It's looking like a panel problem to me.

                              One more thing to confirm: Can you upload a video of the problem? I'm struggling to imagine it well enough.
                              I thought of that but the only time i get any kind of picture is when i leave it unplugged for days, but even then its mostly just a black screen, but with working backlight.

                              when you say panel do you mean expensive? lol

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                              • tom66
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                                #35
                                Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                LCD panel is not economical to replace (80~150% price of TV), and the fading effect you describe is common on some LCD panel failures.

                                Sometimes you can apply a tab bond shim. This sometimes works, but not always.

                                First, please make that video if you can..
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                                • justjoe
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  That's good, then.

                                  It's looking like a panel problem to me.

                                  One more thing to confirm: Can you upload a video of the problem? I'm struggling to imagine it well enough.
                                  This is exactly the same problem i have.

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuKIo_m2n9I

                                  I had this problem with an old pc monitor, i removed the back and pressed down on the components and unplugged things and replaced them and it worked so i was hoping this might be the same.

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                                  • tom66
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                    That's the backlight. In a dark room, when the screen is "dead" (that is it has powered up and it has faded out) do you see screen glow?
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                                    • justjoe
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                      Originally posted by tom66
                                      That's the backlight. In a dark room, when the screen is "dead" (that is it has powered up and it has faded out) do you see screen glow?
                                      yes the glow is very bright, the screen isnt actually black its blue from the brightness of the backlight.

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                                      • tom66
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                        So it's probably a panel problem, like this
                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purk_SyiT44

                                        Different symptoms, probably the same cause.
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                                        • justjoe
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Replacing a bad cap on TV

                                          Originally posted by tom66
                                          So it's probably a panel problem, like this
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purk_SyiT44

                                          Different symptoms, probably the same cause.
                                          well ive tried doing what he did and those ribbons seem to be ok, i dont get anything happening to the screen when i touch them.

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