LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

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  • Baileybum1234
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2012
    • 245
    • UK

    #101
    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

    On a side note I do need to get myself a little component kit togeather.
    Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #102
      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

      Pick up another TV with bad caps?
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      • Baileybum1234
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        • Sep 2012
        • 245
        • UK

        #103
        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

        What and strip it?
        Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #104
          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

          No... fix it!!!
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          • Baileybum1234
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            • Sep 2012
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            #105
            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

            will have a look about.
            Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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            • Baileybum1234
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Sep 2012
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              #106
              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

              Thanks for your help guys Zener replaced and came to life.


              Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #107
                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                Not a zener. A real diode. Glad you fixed it!
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                • Baileybum1234
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  #108
                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                  Well it's worked for 4 weeks with some light use and then got home from the staff party at work for the Mrs to moan at me saying that TV I Fixed is rubbish. Haven't had the back off again just yet but simulated symptoms as before with the diode. Broken again!
                  Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #109
                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                    Yeah, looks like the 150V diode might not have been good enough, would need to source a 200V one, but seems damn near impossible!
                    You can try UF5402~UF5407 but they are only fast recovery... not schottky.
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                    • ben7
                      Capaholic
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4059
                      • USA

                      #110
                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      Yeah, looks like the 150V diode might not have been good enough, would need to source a 200V one, but seems damn near impossible!
                      You can try UF5402~UF5407 but they are only fast recovery... not schottky.
                      Hm, maybe it deserves a snubber circuit across the diode?
                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #111
                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                        I think it already has one but it could be bulked up.
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                        • Baileybum1234
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                          • Sep 2012
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                          • UK

                          #112
                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          Yeah, looks like the 150V diode might not have been good enough, would need to source a 200V one, but seems damn near impossible!
                          You can try UF5402~UF5407 but they are only fast recovery... not schottky.

                          Hi Tom

                          Well I thought I did well and got one of these (link below)

                          Would something else in the tv be pulling too much current, maybe on its way out and cause it to blow do you think?


                          http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/elec...de-general.htm
                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #113
                            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                            Found a source, nice. That should last as long as the original did. Maybe three years or so. I think it's a design flaw for it to not use a proper heatsink. Clearly the part runs much too hot. When installing it, try maximising the lead length. Longer leads will lead to greater heat dissipation capability.
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                            • Baileybum1234
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                              • Sep 2012
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                              #114
                              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Found a source, nice. That should last as long as the original did. Maybe three years or so. I think it's a design flaw for it to not use a proper heatsink. Clearly the part runs much too hot. When installing it, try maximising the lead length. Longer leads will lead to greater heat dissipation capability.
                              This is the component I found 4 weeks ago and replaced the original with. Fortunately I ordered 2.
                              Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                              • Baileybum1234
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 245
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                                #115
                                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                In not so sure about fitting the 2nd one unless I under stand a bit more why the first replacement blew.
                                Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                • ben7
                                  Capaholic
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 4059
                                  • USA

                                  #116
                                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                  Originally posted by Baileybum1234
                                  In not so sure about fitting the 2nd one unless I under stand a bit more why the first replacement blew.
                                  As tom said, it may be too much heat. There are diodes that you can buy which are meant for inverters, they are like 600v, 3A schottkies. I don't know if they have a lower forward voltage drop, but they DO come in better cases (TO-220 for example) which will dissipate the heat better.
                                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                                  • Baileybum1234
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                                    • Sep 2012
                                    • 245
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                                    #117
                                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                    [QUOTE=ben7;294390]As tom said, it may be too much heat. There are diodes that you can buy which are meant for inverters, they are like 600v, 3A schottkies. I don't know if they have a lower forward voltage drop, but they DO come in better cases (TO-220 for example)

                                    So I need to find a better schottkie with simular characteristics?
                                    Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #118
                                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                      You can't fit a TO-220 in that position though, as it's designed for a DO-201 which is an axial package, not designed for mounting to a heatsink. You are stuck with LG's poor design...
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                                      • ben7
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                                        • Jan 2011
                                        • 4059
                                        • USA

                                        #119
                                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        You can't fit a TO-220 in that position though, as it's designed for a DO-201 which is an axial package, not designed for mounting to a heatsink. You are stuck with LG's poor design...
                                        Who says we can't mod it?
                                        Muh-soggy-knee

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                                        • Baileybum1234
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                                          • Sep 2012
                                          • 245
                                          • UK

                                          #120
                                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                          Originally posted by ben7
                                          Who says we can't mod it?
                                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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