LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

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  • Baileybum1234
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2012
    • 245
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    #241
    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

    Originally posted by tom66
    You can't check the small caps on capacitance or esr; leakage is what kills them.
    So you saying an esr meter will not help Tom?

    :0)
    Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #242
      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

      For the majority of cases an ESR meter is useful but not on small startup caps.
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      • Baileybum1234
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        • Sep 2012
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        #243
        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby



        Please could some one tell me what value this resistor is please im going mad!

        and...

        what the heck are these bananas up too????

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        Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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        • tom66
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          #244
          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

          I'm not sure, but I think it will be less than 10 ohms. Is it failed?
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          • Baileybum1234
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            • Sep 2012
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            #245
            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

            Well it measured 0.6 ohms so im not fully sure at the moment.
            Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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            • tom66
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              • Apr 2011
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              #246
              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

              If it goes from one pic of that IC or from the transformer to ground it is the source current resistor and that is normal.
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              • Baileybum1234
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                #247
                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                Originally posted by tom66
                If it goes from one pic of that IC or from the transformer to ground it is the source current resistor and that is normal.
                dam!
                Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                • Baileybum1234
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  #248
                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                  So if I was to de-soldier the output of the step-down transformer on the output of the W6252 would stuff blow up?

                  I'm wondering if this would help me isolate the fault.

                  Ie. if my voltage into the W6252 was still low it would confirm there were no components casing a short the other side of the transformer.
                  Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #249
                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                    I don't know why you haven't replaced that startup cap yet, just to eliminate it.
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                    • Baileybum1234
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                      • Sep 2012
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                      #250
                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      I don't know why you haven't replaced that startup cap yet, just to eliminate it.


                      All the electrolytic capacitors that are directly attached to the legs of the W6252 have been previously replaced and are new.

                      All the components I have circled in red have been replaced.

                      The ceramic capacitor circled in grey has not yet been replaced. MAybe I should look into this?

                      I wonder if the diode that burnt out and was replaced wasn't an exact match? Something caused this diode to heat up and burn. Maybe it just failed and took some thing else with it.
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                      Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                      • tom66
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                        #251
                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                        Hmm, did not realise that. Got a picture of the under-side of that area?
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                        • Baileybum1234
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                          #252
                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                          Yeah give me a moment only if you excuse some of the soldiering some of the components have been in and out a number of times now.
                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                          • Baileybum1234
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                            #253
                            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                            Ok the rear of the circuit. I have circled in grey to give you an idea as to the location of the W6252 and the blown diode.



                            PIN one is the top of the IC PIN 2 n/c ect ect
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                            • tom66
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                              #254
                              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                              Right, and is that new diode OK?
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                              • Baileybum1234
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                                #255
                                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                Well the original diode was: IN4007S 943 and is faulty 0.03v both ways on diode test.

                                And the current replacement: IN4007

                                Diode tests ok 0.549v one way and .0L the other.

                                I wounder if the IN4007S 943 is different to the IN4007
                                Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                • tom66
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                                  #256
                                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                  Probably OK but if that failed it could have damaged the switcher IC.
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                                  • Baileybum1234
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                                    #257
                                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                    By switcher IC do you mean the W6252?

                                    I ordered one yesterday as a bit of a punt.
                                    Last edited by Baileybum1234; 04-01-2013, 07:54 AM.
                                    Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                    • tom66
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                                      • Apr 2011
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                                      #258
                                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                      Yeah that IC.
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                                      • Baileybum1234
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                                        #259
                                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        Yeah that IC.
                                        Result! I will let you know how it goes.
                                        Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                        • Baileybum1234
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                                          • Sep 2012
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                                          #260
                                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                          Well have I given in? I dont know but what I do know is that I picke up a PSU and control board for £19.50 delivered from a well known auction site not far from here.

                                          Im still going to try and fix the old one when I get the IC.
                                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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