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  • rn74
    New Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 6
    • USA

    #1

    Emerson LC401EM2F

    Hello. I have an Emerson 40" LCD TV that stopped working. I removed the back panel and noticed the 8A 250V fuse near the AC input was open. I'm pretty familiar with working on computers (replacing caps, power jacks, etc.) but I know little about TVs.

    I can simply replace the fuse, but I'd rather check around and make sure everything is good before I put power to it again. All the caps look fine, no signs of damage visually.

    I saw a Youtube video where someone had the same problem. He determined, without saying exactly how, it was on the AC side. Then he determined he had two bad diodes. Again, he didn't say how. Can someone walk me through what I should test?

    Thanks!
  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

    Did anything accompany the not working? Bang Flash?

    Was it subjected to any powersurge.

    One way instead of testing all components is to rig a lightbulb in place of the fuse - see here
    http://antiqueradio.org/dimbulb.htm


    Dont think we fixed it but this will give you some ideas
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...M2F#post250318

    You will need to post pictures of YOUR boards.
    Last edited by selldoor; 08-09-2012, 01:45 PM.
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • killian6pk
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Apr 2010
      • 502
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

      Hello and welcome. I tried to find a free service manual for your tv, but could not. This is a link to a site that sells the service manuals. Tom66 has a free site for manuals but could not find one there either. http://www.service-manual.net/ashop/...tpage=4&shop=1

      You need to post pictures using the section under go advanced below the quick reply. Take one picture of back of tv after removing the back cover. Then one picture of the back and front of each of the power and main boards. Resolution no more that 2000 x 2000. We need to be able to read the printing on the boards. No flash just well lit.
      Have you ever stopped to think and then forget to start thinking again?

      As a very wise man once said on this forum: "Of all the things I have lost I miss my mind the most."

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      • rn74
        New Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 6
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

        Thanks for the replies. I did check that link and that very diode appears to be faulty on mine as well. I found several others near that relay that are also bad. It may have been hit with a power surge. It was turned off and nobody was present, but there were storms in the area.

        I'll post some pictures as soon as I'm able - likely first thing in the morning.



        Looks like, per shopjimmy.com, that this model's power board is also used in:

        MAGNAVOX 40MF401B/F7
        PHILIPS / FUNAI CLC401EM2F
        SYLVANIA LC401EM2
        SYLVANIA LC401EM2F
        SYLVANIA LC401SS2

        So I've started looking for information on those as well, but no luck yet. Thanks again!

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        • killian6pk
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Apr 2010
          • 502
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

          Check tom's free site under each of those and see if there is a service manual. Most of the time they will have a flow chart that helps to run down problems.

          http://www.tgohome.com/ServiceManuals
          Have you ever stopped to think and then forget to start thinking again?

          As a very wise man once said on this forum: "Of all the things I have lost I miss my mind the most."

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          • rn74
            New Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 6
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

            Thanks. I tried them all and no joy.

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            • lilmonk3
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2012
              • 259
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

              Same model here and same problem... Blows the fuse as soon as its plugged in. Been busy with back to school stuff so I have not had time to mess with it.. But, I have unhooked all boards.. And one by one I hooked them back up..
              Grey flat power cable going from PS to Main, fuse fine but no life on standby lights or power.Next was Flat white slip in ribbon cable going from PS to main
              and thats when the fuse blows..Hopefully I can find time soon to get back to my TV stuff.

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              • lilmonk3
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Apr 2012
                • 259
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                Ok I have some time to mess with this.. Here are a few results from some diodes that I have tested
                D1215 Is reading large # s in both directions
                D1401 " "
                D1603 " "
                D606 Reading 000 both directions
                Attached Files

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                • retiredcaps
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9271

                  #9
                  Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                  Originally posted by lilmonk3
                  D606 Reading 000 both directions
                  Remove D606 and retest. I normally use diode test function on the multimeter.
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                  • lilmonk3
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 259
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                    #10
                    Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                    Ok will do .. I have been using the diode setting..

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                    • retiredcaps
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9271

                      #11
                      Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                      Originally posted by lilmonk3
                      Ok will do .. I have been using the diode setting..
                      Then report your readings all diodes. Your results in post#8 are vague. "large #s' mean nothing.
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                      • lilmonk3
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                        • Apr 2012
                        • 259
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                        #12
                        Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                        Readings in diode mode with D606 Removed
                        D606 OL .663
                        D1215 .027 .027
                        D1603 .125 .142
                        D1401 .665 other way Climbs to .980 then OL

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                        • retiredcaps
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9271

                          #13
                          Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                          Originally posted by lilmonk3
                          Readings in diode mode with D606 Removed
                          D606 OL .663
                          D1215 .027 .027
                          D1603 .125 .142
                          D1401 .665 other way Climbs to .980 then OL
                          D1215 and D1603 are both shorted in circuit. Remove both and retest out of circuit.

                          D606 is good out of circuit. Leave it out of circuit for now.
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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                            D606 may be in parallel with something with low Ohm usch as inductor/transformer widing or very low Ohm resistor.

                            D1215 .027 .027
                            D1603 .125 .142
                            These two looks bad, are you measuring them in the circuits or they are removed?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • lilmonk3
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 259
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                              Originally posted by budm
                              D606 may be in parallel with something with low Ohm usch as inductor/transformer widing or very low Ohm resistor.

                              D1215 .027 .027
                              D1603 .125 .142
                              These two looks bad, are you measuring them in the circuits or they are removed?
                              Bud.. the only one out of circuit in those reading was d606

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                                I always test them out off the board when they read bad/strange on the board, it just a way to verify for sure.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • lilmonk3
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2012
                                  • 259
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                                  Ok all of the following out of circuit..
                                  D606 OL .663
                                  D1215 OL .547
                                  D1603 OL .660
                                  D1401 OL .653
                                  Last edited by lilmonk3; 08-31-2012, 12:52 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                                    At this point I will need really good clear pictures of the bottom side of the board to trace out the connections and see how these Diode are hooked up. They tested OK out off the board.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • lilmonk3
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2012
                                      • 259
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                                      If those are not good enough, another member posted some pics here https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...M2F#post250318

                                      Its cloudy here today and I have crappy lighting in my house
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Emerson LC401EM2F

                                        I rather use yours clear pictures since other board may not be the same revision, it is already hard enough try tracing the connections without having the board in front of me while toggling back and forth between the picture of the top of the board and bottom of the board to get correct part locations. I may ask for closed up later.
                                        Can I get the picture of the top board that I can see the whole board, your earlier pictures cutout part of the board.
                                        Last edited by budm; 08-31-2012, 01:46 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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