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  • budm
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    So that signal is the Positive, which is fed into the base in one of the two transistors in that section. We need to draw out how those two transistors and resistors are connected to pin 2 and pin 3 of the IC. That voltage must be used to turn on-off the Oscillator circuits of the PFC IC, that is the only thing I can think of.
    Can you draw out the physical connections of that section, or the schematic of it?
    Last edited by budm; 03-07-2012, 10:05 AM.

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by budm
    That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?
    Budm just tried another reading..when black probe on primary side im getting a reading up & down from .346vdc to 1.254vdc with black probe still touching primary ground then red touching that point you highlighted it goes to 0.00vdc..thats on standby..when on black probe to ground primary goes to 1.430vdc & when red probe goes to 0.00vdc..thx

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    Hi budm as soon as i red probe that spot even without the black in primary ground area it still reads minus..the voltages do change with on & off but is minus?...thats why i asked if i should check again ..i left it overnight to do a fresh test & still minus?
    Checked Q803 mosfett markings F B J02
    FQPF
    9N50C
    G S
    D....B-G R-D=3.41M
    R-G B-G=2.395M
    B-D R-S=2.409M
    R-D B-S=3.00M
    R-G B-S-8.56K
    B-S R-G=8.56K..THX does this appear shorted?

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by budm
    That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?
    Hi budm as soon as i red probe that spot even without the black in primary ground area it still reads minus..the voltages do change with on & off but is minus?...thats why i asked if i should check again ..i left it overnight to do a fresh test & still minus?

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  • budm
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    That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    Should i retest again or do these appear correct..thx
    I dont want to throw the towel in as yet..getting this far we must be getting close..cmon guys dont give up on me

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    Tested them areas & with tv off just plugged in i got -1.486vdc & slowly rising.
    On standby -.940vdc & when on -.340vdc then the blue led started flashing then steady then off..thx
    Should i retest again or do these appear correct..thx

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    Thx budm without you & tom id be goosed..just getting confirmation whether to solder the 2 mosfets bk in
    Tested them areas & with tv off just plugged in i got -1.486vdc & slowly rising.
    On standby -.940vdc & when on -.340vdc then the blue led started flashing then steady then off..thx

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  • sienoki
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    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by budm
    I think I figure out how the IC is being turn on/off, see the PDF.
    Thx budm without you & tom id be goosed..just getting confirmation whether to solder the 2 mosfets bk in

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  • tom66
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    G S
    D being gate/sorce & drain B black probe & R red probe testing on ohms.
    Testing on diode/resistance mode i got on Q813 R-S..BD 1 beep .523 & reverse OL all other combinations being OL
    On Q814 1 beep .510 on same S-D & OL reverse..are these ok then tom so i can solder back in..thx
    As long as you don't see a short it's probably okay.

    Right now I would be looking at a new PSU from eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...36&_nkw=17pw26 around £30.

    As without a scope and extensive knowledge of switching power supplies you'll be spending a lot of time trying to find the problem.

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by tom66
    Seems fine, but what's B and R?
    G S
    D being gate/sorce & drain B black probe & R red probe testing on ohms.
    Testing on diode/resistance mode i got on Q813 R-S..BD 1 beep .523 & reverse OL all other combinations being OL
    On Q814 1 beep .510 on same S-D & OL reverse..are these ok then tom so i can solder back in..thx

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  • budm
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    I think I figure out how the IC is being turn on/off, see the PDF.
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  • tom66
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    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by sienoki
    Q813 markings P9NK50ZFP
    GK1QC V6
    CHN 842
    All six cobinations where OL apart from B-D & R-S that was 2.702m

    Q814 markings F M J05
    FQPF
    9N50C
    Same results but B-D & R-S was 2.522m
    These where measured out of circuit..how do you know if these are shorted thx
    Seems fine, but what's B and R?

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by tom66
    Just check any and all combinations for shorts (<100 ohms) in circuit.
    Q813 markings P9NK50ZFP
    GK1QC V6
    CHN 842
    All six cobinations where OL apart from B-D & R-S that was 2.702m

    Q814 markings F M J05
    FQPF
    9N50C
    Same results but B-D & R-S was 2.522m
    These where measured out of circuit..how do you know if these are shorted thx
    Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 04:43 PM.

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  • tom66
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    Which FETS tom Q813 & Q814? if so how do i test..is it out of circuit & red & black on the 3 pins..
    Sorry for not knowing the terms for components as im totally new at this..im a slow learner..lol
    Just check any and all combinations for shorts (<100 ohms) in circuit.

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  • sienoki
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    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by tom66
    Nope seems okay.

    Did you check the FETs for shorts too? Though *usually* if a FET is shorted it will blow a fuse, on a two switch forward converter it might not.
    Which FETS tom Q813 & Q814? if so how do i test..is it out of circuit & red & black on the 3 pins..
    Sorry for not knowing the terms for components as im totally new at this..im a slow learner..lol
    Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 02:54 PM.

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  • tom66
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    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by sienoki
    D882 & D883 measure .387 & OL..thats in circuit shall i pull 1 leg..thx
    Nope seems okay.

    Did you check the FETs for shorts too? Though *usually* if a FET is shorted it will blow a fuse, on a two switch forward converter it might not.

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  • sienoki
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    Originally posted by tom66
    The two big diodes with MUR... written on them on the photo with the big power resistor.
    D882 & D883 measure .387 & OL..thats in circuit shall i pull 1 leg..thx

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  • tom66
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    Originally posted by sienoki
    My probes touched together on ohms settings reads 01.0..which 2 diodes are you refering to tom..thx
    The two big diodes with MUR... written on them on the photo with the big power resistor.

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  • sienoki
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    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by budm
    You had the better pictures before that I download but I still cannot see some of the traces that run under the components.
    From pin 2 & 3 i can see 2 traces..pin 2 trace goes to J159..pin 3 trace goes to 6801 smd resistor
    http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000892.jpg
    http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000894.jpg
    Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 01:53 PM.

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