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  • Bigredram87
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 88
    • United States

    #81
    Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

    That's all I have done so far

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #82
      Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

      That should be enough to run the IC, orientation is correct for sure. Look at the output pin7? which drive the Gate of the PFC MOSFET to see if it has any voltage there.
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      • Bigredram87
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 88
        • United States

        #83
        Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

        Ok pin 7 to ground? With pson correct

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        • Bigredram87
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 88
          • United States

          #84
          Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

          ok I have 10.90 Volts output but the strange thing is I have a 10.90 voltage drop across the first resistor off of pin 7? I have 10.90V at the lead edge of the SM resistor and 0 volts on the other side.... THe thing I also just realized is there are multiple other resistors that have no continuity across them!!

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #85
            Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

            It would be helpful to see the position of these resistors you refer to.
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            • Bigredram87
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 88
              • United States

              #86
              Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v



              Ok this one is measuring 8.5M ohm

              I realize now that the other ones just dont wrk on coninuity setting and if you use ohm setting the do register a value I apologize
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              • Bigredram87
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 88
                • United States

                #87
                Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                I believe it is has 100 printed on it

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                • Bigredram87
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 88
                  • United States

                  #88
                  Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                  OK I replaced the resistor with one I had and the cap did shoot up to 400V and the Tv was making a whining type noise. It ended up blowing my main fuse when the voltage reached 400 but I was only using a 5amp fuse (temp until rest of my order comes in)

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #89
                    Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                    OK, I looked the board lay out, pin 7 (Gate drive) is connected to R820, this resistor is connected in series with R806, this R806 is then connected in series with R822 (basically these 3 resistors are connected in series), R822 is connected in parallel with Gate discharge Diode D807 and then feed the Gate of the MOSFET Q801. Since the resistor is damaged, it means that the MOSFET was damaged (Drain to Gate shorted out that it is blown open by now) and dumped about 380VDC into the output pin 7 of the PFC IC. I cannot read the value of those resistors, the Diode D807 mat be damaged also.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Bigredram87
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 88
                      • United States

                      #90
                      Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                      Wow ok I can take it to work and look under scope to get the values... SO basically I should replace R820,R806 R822 D807 Q801

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                      • Bigredram87
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 88
                        • United States

                        #91
                        Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                        Is there a way I can test Mosfet just for future reference and to verify

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                        • Bigredram87
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 88
                          • United States

                          #92
                          Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                          Also is there anything I can check after the FET to make sure nothing else was damaged

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #93
                            Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                            I would check the PFC diode - near the FET - just in case that caused the original fault.
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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #94
                              Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                              R824 needs to be check also. Since D807 is in parallel with R822, it will not readout correctly, you will have to remove it off the board.
                              You can check for shorts on all 3 legs combination. Real function test will be an active test by using power supply, LED for indicator, resistor.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Bigredram87
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 88
                                • United States

                                #95
                                Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                I feel like its bad i believe it is showing it's flowing both ways in diode check mode 1 direction measures .686v the other which i thought should be overload measures -.868 or something close to that

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #96
                                  Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                  I am sure it is bad since 13V power supply cannot damage the Gate drive circuit like that, it had to be High voltage from the Drain to Gate that caused the damage to the resistor. I should have told you to check those resistor but from the pictures I did not see any blown up resistors in the Gate drive path.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • Bigredram87
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2013
                                    • 88
                                    • United States

                                    #97
                                    Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                    Yea its strange the one that is blown for sure the 10 ohm looks completely fine until you pull it out and measure it Thanks so much I plan on ordering these parts soon

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #98
                                      Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                      I usually tell people to change the IC and the MOSFET at the same time and check the Gate drive resistors/Diode network, I am sorry I did not tell you that. Might as well take a close look at C816 which is in parallel with the Source Drain to see if it has any burnt sign.
                                      Last edited by budm; 09-18-2013, 07:31 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Bigredram87
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Sep 2013
                                        • 88
                                        • United States

                                        #99
                                        Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                        Oh no problem I'm very excited to be learning this stuff. I will let you know when my parts arrive again thank you

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                                        • Bigredram87
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Sep 2013
                                          • 88
                                          • United States

                                          #100
                                          Re: VZ42L No Amber light, no stand by 5v

                                          Ok I replaced the diode and the blown resistors now I am just waiting for MOSFET to ship. In the meantime can you explain the good method of checking mosfets ? I have a breadboard and resistors and LEDs. I would like to know process

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