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  • Toasty
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    • Jul 2007
    • 4171

    #21
    Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

    I cannot say definitively without the unit in front of me. A power surge can mean a lot of things and do a lot of damage.

    You are more than welcome to attempt the IC replacement. Do you have the tools, materials, and skills necessary? It's the 24 pin SOIC on the back of the board. ~$20 + s/h

    ID: M34509G4FP
    Panasonic Part Number: C2ABDB000108

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    • gmzombie
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      • Sep 2009
      • 83

      #22
      Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

      where is the best place to find that. i checked mouser and digikey

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      • PlainBill
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        • Feb 2009
        • 7034
        • USA

        #23
        Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

        Originally posted by gmzombie
        where is the best place to find that. i checked mouser and digikey
        Google the Panasonic part number. Sears says it has been replaced with C2ABDB000110. Google that number and you will find several sources.

        PlainBill
        For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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        • Toasty
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          • Jul 2007
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          #24
          Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

          Did some more digging.

          Before you go any further with ordering...

          Hook it all together and answer this question:

          Is there 5V at pin 10 of connector P25 when the TV is plugged into the AC line?
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          • gmzombie
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            • Sep 2009
            • 83

            #25
            Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

            yes there is 5v dc on pin 10 in the p25 connector

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            • Toasty
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              • Jul 2007
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              #26
              Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

              Good.

              Next:

              Is there 2.7V at pin 13 of connector P25 when the TV is plugged into the AC line?

              Report any voltage reading there.

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              Last edited by Toasty; 08-02-2011, 08:34 PM.
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              • gmzombie
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                • Sep 2009
                • 83

                #27
                Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                no voltage there on pin 13

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                • Toasty
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  #28
                  Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                  Could you post a well lit pic of the central back area taken on about a 45° angle from left to right? Be sure to include the P, PA, and the DT (the perforated silver box).

                  I want to verify something for the next step.

                  I'm looking for the DG connector.
                  I think it's on the board under the DT (box) and should have a white ribbon-style cable going into it.

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                  Last edited by Toasty; 08-02-2011, 10:14 PM.
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                  • gmzombie
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 83

                    #29
                    Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                    ok here are some pics i have a few more im posting now...it wouldnt let me post them all?
                    Attached Files

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                    • gmzombie
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                      • Sep 2009
                      • 83

                      #30
                      Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                      2nd half hopefully these help
                      Attached Files

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                      • Toasty
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                        • Jul 2007
                        • 4171

                        #31
                        Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                        At this point in the testing, the P board is no longer suspect.

                        Unplug the TV.

                        At the end of the flat white cable under your hand in the 3rd picture in the first set of pics is the DG3 connection. I am not sure if there is a locking mechanism in place on that cable or connector. Some use a clip. Some use a pressure clamp. Be careful and don't pull on it until you look at it carefully.

                        Disconnect connector DG3.

                        Plug the TV in.
                        Do the relays click after the TV is plugged into the AC line?

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                        • gmzombie
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                          • Sep 2009
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                          #32
                          Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                          yes they do click on for a few seconds

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                          • Toasty
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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #33
                            Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                            Unplug the TV.

                            Reconnect the DG3 connector.

                            See the attached photo.

                            Disconnect H51 from the H board (red outline).
                            That's the board with all the RCA and other types of input jacks on it for the set.
                            The connector is towards the bottom (as indicated), under the area of the panel where it is marked:

                            Component Video
                            Input
                            1 2


                            You'll have to remove that framework around and over it (one big piece outlined in green) to get to the connector.

                            Once it is disconnected, plug the set back in.
                            Do the relays click?

                            If not, the H board is defective.

                            If yes, more to check.

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                            • gmzombie
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                              • Sep 2009
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                              #34
                              Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                              after unplugging the p51 connector it still clicks when it is plugged in.

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                              • Toasty
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                                • Jul 2007
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                                #35
                                Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                H51, yes? Not P51.

                                DG3 is connected, yes?

                                If you plug H51 back in, do the relays stop clicking when plugging it in?

                                Check the cable between the H51 and the G51 connector. If it's okay, then the fault is in the G board (front terminal).

                                Looking at the schematic, try jumping the power switch.
                                Pin 7 of G1 connector to chassis ground. Does the set come on?
                                If not, try it with the K1 plug unplugged. (other end of cable from G1 connector)

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                                Last edited by Toasty; 08-04-2011, 06:10 AM.
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                                • gmzombie
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                                  • Sep 2009
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                                  #36
                                  Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                  sorry missed the part about plugging back in dg3. when h51 is unplugged but dg3 is plugged in no clicks. so since it didnt click after i plugged in the dg3 and disconnected the h51 the h board would be defective correct?
                                  Last edited by gmzombie; 08-04-2011, 11:17 AM.

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                                  • Toasty
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                                    • Jul 2007
                                    • 4171

                                    #37
                                    Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                    Correct.

                                    Disconnect power.

                                    Look in the area of the H51 connector for tiny 1mm square black chips with markings on the board FL2606, FL2607 etc.

                                    Check those with the DMM on continuity test (lowest scale).

                                    They should show continuity left to right and top to bottom,

                                    but -NOT-

                                    left or right TO top or bottom.

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                                    • gmzombie
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                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 83

                                      #38
                                      Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                      correct i checked all of the fl's in the area of the h51 and there were some that were pointed vertical but most of them were pointed horizontal and all of them had continuity.

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                                      • Toasty
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                                        • Jul 2007
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                                        #39
                                        Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                        Not what I'm looking for. They all should have continuity.

                                        Look at this as a pinout of one of them.

                                        ┌─3─┐
                                        1░░░2
                                        └─4─┘

                                        Is there continuity from 1 to 3 on any of them?

                                        All should have continuity from 1 to 2
                                        All should have continuity from 3 to 4

                                        None should have continuity from 1 to 3 or 4
                                        None should have continuity from 2 to 3 or 4

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                                        • gmzombie
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                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 83

                                          #40
                                          Re: panasonic th-42px60u power problem no light

                                          fl2603,2602,2604 all show about 76ohms. the rest show o/l that is for 1/3 and 1/4

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