Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

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  • mitsu2k
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2013
    • 219
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

    Davi.p, is there any method you know of to try and guess the possibly bad protection diode before I start removing one by one? What about freeze spray? I did try and get a temerature reading using infrared thermometer but I could not get any readings that seemed abnormally hot.

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    • petehall347
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jan 2015
      • 4426
      • United Kingdom

      #22
      Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

      if they are tvs diodes the fail is shorted . look up the datasheet pinouts and look for shorts . semiconductors have a habit of failing short .

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      • Davi.p
        Hobbist Tech
        • Sep 2009
        • 4330
        • Italy - Milan

        #23
        Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

        already said.. the problem them eventually get short under tension so you can't test them with MM, the only test that turns in mind is to heat them one per test with soldering stick then test if image is fully ruined at power on..

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        • mitsu2k
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2013
          • 219
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

          Originally posted by Davi.p
          already said.. the problem them eventually get short under tension so you can't test them with MM, the only test that turns in mind is to heat them one per test with soldering stick then test if image is fully ruined at power on..
          Now I understand what you are saying. Your are saying that the fail possibly is dynamic and only fails under load. So yes in this case it would be impossible to test with mm. The screen looks perfect for the first 1 or 2 seconds after powering on. But then the lines appear. So you are correct, the problem is dynamic. I am just so afraid of causing other damage while trying to remove them. The tv is very large and the panel boards sit at an angle so it is very difficult to get the proper angle. I do have a hot air station but that may be to risky die to the proximity of the ribbon cable connector. I will have to shield it very well. The blob of solder method may work but due to the angle of the board, I'm afraid solder will just run down the board. I will keep thinking of a good method.

          Question, should the tv still work with those diodes removed?

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          • Davi.p
            Hobbist Tech
            • Sep 2009
            • 4330
            • Italy - Milan

            #25
            Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

            the tv uses the diodes only in a case of over voltage so for a test aren't necessary, but must be populated next soonest possible. I have never done this procedure, i can only try to suggest you the smallest nozzle and the lowest possible air pressure with high temperature cause the diode packs are ultra small, you need a decent air station, some skill, good eyes, steady hand, a decent plier for smd works, no expensive things to be clear..
            If you have a cutter with brand new blade you can try detach it by small pressure..
            Last edited by Davi.p; 08-04-2023, 03:21 AM.

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            • zomi
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Nov 2011
              • 505

              #26
              Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

              You can try flux and retouch them with leaded solder
              will make it easier to remove then.

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              • zomi
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2011
                • 505

                #27
                Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

                Also kapton or similar heat resistant tape on the plastic connector

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                • Davi.p
                  Hobbist Tech
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4330
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #28
                  Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

                  aluminum tape/foil is better

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                  • zomi
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 505

                    #29
                    Re: Strange problem with Sony XBR-85X850G 85" LED tv

                    @davi.p would appreciate your advice on my thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114225
                    I have a similar issue maybe ?

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