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  • 370forlife
    Large Marge
    • Aug 2008
    • 3112
    • United States

    #21
    Re: K.i.s.s.

    Originally posted by c_hegge
    Disagree. I see lots of PSUs with failed teapo. .
    Ok. How old were these psu's? I only really see failed teapo in psu's about 6-8 years old, mostly hipros and lower end FSP.

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    • c_hegge
      Badcaps Legend
      • Sep 2009
      • 5219
      • Australia

      #22
      Re: K.i.s.s.

      3 years roughly, but a good cap like a rubycon will last much longer than that. I have seen ancient psu's where none of the caps had failed.
      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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      • goodpsusearch
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2009
        • 2850
        • Greece

        #23
        Re: K.i.s.s.

        Interesting thread...
        How would you rate the following capacitors from better to worse?

        Teapo, Ost, Jun Fu, Capxon, G-Luxon, Choyo

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        • 370forlife
          Large Marge
          • Aug 2008
          • 3112
          • United States

          #24
          Re: K.i.s.s.

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
          Interesting thread...
          How would you rate the following capacitors from better to worse?

          Teapo, Ost, Jun Fu, Capxon, G-Luxon, Choyo

          Best to worst:

          Teapo, G-luxon (teapo rebranded), Ost, Capxon, G-luxon, Jun Fu (rebranded Fuhjiyyu?), Choyo

          G-luxon, it all depends. G-luxon is now owned by teapo, and new ones are simply rebranded teapo. You can tell these because they will have the teapo vent.

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          • Scenic
            o.O
            • Sep 2007
            • 2642
            • Germany

            #25
            Re: K.i.s.s.

            so Teapo = Yageo = G-Luxon now?! o.O

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            • 370forlife
              Large Marge
              • Aug 2008
              • 3112
              • United States

              #26
              Re: K.i.s.s.

              Yes

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              • c_hegge
                Badcaps Legend
                • Sep 2009
                • 5219
                • Australia

                #27
                Re: K.i.s.s.

                I would have said OST and teapo are tied for the best, Capxon in the middle and the others tied for worst.
                I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                • mur
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 21

                  #28
                  Re: K.i.s.s.

                  Originally posted by 370forlife
                  Teapo, G-luxon (teapo rebranded), Ost, Capxon, G-luxon, Jun Fu (rebranded Fuhjiyyu?), Choyo
                  Where would you put Jamicon between those?

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                  • c_hegge
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5219
                    • Australia

                    #29
                    Re: K.i.s.s.

                    With the bottom ones. I recently opened an AOpen branded PSU made by FSP and the Jamicons were bloated but the fuhjyyu were not. Any brand that is outlasted by fuhjyyu is very very bad IMHO.
                    Last edited by c_hegge; 05-17-2010, 07:49 AM.
                    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                    Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                    Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                    • Scenic
                      o.O
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2642
                      • Germany

                      #30
                      Re: K.i.s.s.

                      Originally posted by c_hegge
                      I would have said OST and teapo are tied for the best, Capxon in the middle and the others tied for worst.
                      funny thing that i noticed is that the capxon series which fail a lot seem to be the same ones where samxon fails.

                      Capxon GL -> Samxon GL for example..

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 5016
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: K.i.s.s.

                        Originally posted by c_hegge
                        With the bottom ones. I recently opened an AOpen branded PSU made by FSP and the Jamicons were bloated but the fuhjyyu were not. Any brand that is outlasted by fuhjyyu is very very bad IMHO.
                        But did you measure ESR? They could still have gone bad without showing it...
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • momaka
                          master hoarder
                          • May 2008
                          • 12175
                          • Bulgaria

                          #32
                          Re: K.i.s.s.

                          You also need to take into account the overall design of the PSU and where the caps were sitting. For example, if those Fuhjyyus that c_hegge was talking about were sitting near the vents while the Jamicons were next to a hot dummy-load resistor, then it would make sense why they failed faster. (This is why you see Delta-made PSUs with L-Tec caps last so long - because they are well-designed). And then there's the question which rail was loaded the most and which caps handled that particular rail.

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                          • c_hegge
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5219
                            • Australia

                            #33
                            Re: K.i.s.s.

                            The Fuhjyyu and jamicons were all near each other (ie. very little if any temperature difference), although I didn't think of the other possibilities at the time like the fuhjyyu drying up without bulging or the load on the rails. In any case, though, I still believe the jamicon to be junk, since they would have lasted longer than they did if they were half decent.
                            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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