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  • everell
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2009
    • 1514
    • USA

    #1

    Coolmax unraveling

    Acquired a dead Coolmax model V-600. Powered it up, and sure enough it was dead. The 5VSB was OK, but everything else was dead. Removed the pc board from the metal box, applied power to start troubleshooting, and everything working OK. Hum....................

    Doing a visual inspection, I found that one end of the pc board was delaminating. That ought to be a quick fix. Just squirt some super glue between the layers and use a couple of clothes pins to hold it together until dry. But.........I began considering that crappy quality pc board material means that it will probably continue delaminating in other areas. NOT acceptable. So I have met my match and decided that this power supply is simply NOT repairable (unless you want to replace the pc board!). So this one will be used for parts.
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    Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)
  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8173
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Coolmax unraveling

    I'd do the same thing.

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    • Agent24
      I see dead caps
      • Oct 2007
      • 4957
      • New Zealand

      #3
      Re: Coolmax unraveling

      Wow, that's a really crap PCB!

      Looks like heat is the cause of the de-lamination. (Well, that, and rubbish quality glue)
      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
      -David VanHorn

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      • everell
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2009
        • 1514
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Coolmax unraveling

        Such delamination reminds me of the Democratic Party!
        Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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        • Dan81
          SNES-powered
          • Oct 2013
          • 1865
          • Romania

          #5
          Re: Coolmax unraveling

          Seeing how the Coolmax is crowded with parts,you'd be able to mod a Raidmax with that - especially since AT-2005B Sun Pros have that main transformer without the center tap.
          Main rig:
          Gigabyte B75M-D3H
          Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
          Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
          16GB DDR3-1600
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          FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
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          • Pentium4
            CapXon Be Gone
            • Sep 2011
            • 3741
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Coolmax unraveling

            What a bummer! I love those Sun Pro AT-2005B designs. I've probably recapped a dozen of them. Perform well and very silent. Should have some good parts to use!

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            • Dan81
              SNES-powered
              • Oct 2013
              • 1865
              • Romania

              #7
              Re: Coolmax unraveling

              Originally posted by Pentium4
              What a bummer! I love those Sun Pro AT-2005B designs. I've probably recapped a dozen of them. Perform well and very silent. Should have some good parts to use!
              Considering they usually don't have too tall heatsinks,you can fit them in any generic 120mm PSU case
              Main rig:
              Gigabyte B75M-D3H
              Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
              Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
              16GB DDR3-1600
              Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
              FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
              120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
              Delux MG760 case

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              • everell
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2009
                • 1514
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Coolmax unraveling

                Originally posted by Dan81
                Considering they usually don't have too tall heatsinks,you can fit them in any generic 120mm PSU case
                It does have a nice case and fan. Perhaps I can find another IMicro to fix the pc board and put it in this case. Wouldn't that confuse the next person to work on it!
                Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                • Dan81
                  SNES-powered
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 1865
                  • Romania

                  #9
                  Re: Coolmax unraveling

                  Originally posted by everell
                  It does have a nice case and fan. Perhaps I can find another IMicro to fix the pc board and put it in this case. Wouldn't that confuse the next person to work on it!
                  Oh boy,how much I used to do that.

                  I put a lot of funny stuff in cases. Last one I gave to a friend was a 350W CWT ISO PSU that I crammed (the wires were incredibily thick and stiff) in a 450W Delux (which in turn was a Kissquiet) that was fried. Same goes for two other fried Delux PSUs (a SunPro and the other was an iMicro I think?) except in both cases I used two L&C LC-B450E PSUs. (recapped,of course)I even remember slapping the Premier LC-B450E sticker it had on one .

                  Other works I did:
                  Delux (Sun Pro OEM) - Maxpower/KME - I remember I gave this to my friend who needed it to power a security system camera (12v)

                  Sumvision KY-450ATX - this one was built from both its original casing and another Delux casing.

                  Linkworld LPK2-30 - Eurocase 250X1

                  Intex IT-20F1BC-A 430W - JNC LC-B350ATX

                  and the most recent one? Delux (Sun Pro OEM) - Leadman LP-7700 (w/EI-40 transformer - anybody know where to get some 13009 transistors?)
                  Main rig:
                  Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                  Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                  Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                  16GB DDR3-1600
                  Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                  FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                  120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                  Delux MG760 case

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                  • everell
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1514
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Coolmax unraveling

                    Originally posted by Dan81
                    I even remember slapping the Premier LC-B450E sticker it had on one .
                    This is the sticker I would use.
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                    Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                    • dmill89
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 2534
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Coolmax unraveling

                      Originally posted by everell
                      This is the sticker I would use.
                      That label comes from this piece of crap, which makes a Sun-Pro or L&C look "top of the line" by comparison:



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                      • Drack
                        Yup it's me
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 297
                        • Venezuela

                        #12
                        Re: Coolmax unraveling

                        That happened to me with an old PSU that came from a Lenovo PC, don't know the manufacturer though.
                        I did the same, took everything I could use and throw everything else out the window
                        Last edited by Drack; 01-09-2017, 05:46 AM.

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                        • dmill89
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 2534
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Coolmax unraveling

                          Originally posted by Drack
                          That happened to me with an old PSU that came from a Lenovo PC, don't know the manufacturer though.
                          Likely Delta, AcBel, or Lite-On for a Lenovo PSU. Assuming it was the OE PSU and not a cheap replacement, it was likely really old and exposed to allot of heat, none of those OEMs is known for using exceptionally cheap PCBs.

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                          • Drack
                            Yup it's me
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 297
                            • Venezuela

                            #14
                            Re: Coolmax unraveling

                            Yeah, the parts where quality ones and everything was good but because of the bad PCB it would not work all the time or just never after a while lol. The only disappointment was the 20a fast recovery diode but I think it can be useful some day so I kept it,
                            the fan was stuck that's why it died, it was really dusty inside that little case
                            Last edited by Drack; 01-09-2017, 07:47 PM.

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                            • PeteS in CA
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 3581
                              • USA, Unsure of Planet

                              #15
                              Re: Coolmax unraveling

                              Originally posted by everell
                              ... So this one will be used for parts.
                              The "Y-caps" on that look like they could be general purpose rather than safety agency approved parts. If they are general purpose parts, don't use them as Y-caps.
                              PeteS in CA

                              Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
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                              • Drack
                                Yup it's me
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 297
                                • Venezuela

                                #16
                                Re: Coolmax unraveling

                                Originally posted by dmill89
                                That label comes from this piece of crap, which makes a Sun-Pro or L&C look "top of the line" by comparison:


                                Ohh my god, it looks like a child cut that PCB with plastic
                                Scissors

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                                • dmill89
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Dec 2011
                                  • 2534
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Coolmax unraveling

                                  Originally posted by Drack
                                  Ohh my god, it looks like a child cut that PCB with plastic
                                  Scissors
                                  Yah, that "free with case" OKIA "420W" (I think they added a 0, more like 42W) is by far the worst PSU I've ever personally owned (and by "owned", I mean I immediately took it out of the case it came with and replaced it with something better, I wouldn't even think of powering a PC with that POS).

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                                  • Drack
                                    Yup it's me
                                    • Nov 2016
                                    • 297
                                    • Venezuela

                                    #18
                                    Re: Coolmax unraveling

                                    The sad part is that 95% of the PSUs people uses are like that (including my p4 PC)

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                                    • Agent24
                                      I see dead caps
                                      • Oct 2007
                                      • 4957
                                      • New Zealand

                                      #19
                                      Re: Coolmax unraveling

                                      Originally posted by Drack
                                      Ohh my god, it looks like a child cut that PCB with plastic
                                      Scissors
                                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                      -David VanHorn

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                                      • Dan81
                                        SNES-powered
                                        • Oct 2013
                                        • 1865
                                        • Romania

                                        #20
                                        Re: Coolmax unraveling

                                        Originally posted by dmill89
                                        Yah, that "free with case" OKIA "420W" (I think they added a 0, more like 42W) is by far the worst PSU I've ever personally owned (and by "owned", I mean I immediately took it out of the case it came with and replaced it with something better, I wouldn't even think of powering a PC with that POS).
                                        OKIA is good for exploding.

                                        Seriously , I've seen Maxpowers better than that Okia with the same size of PCB. Is that OKIA made by KME? If so,shame on them.
                                        Main rig:
                                        Gigabyte B75M-D3H
                                        Core i5-3470 3.60GHz
                                        Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5
                                        16GB DDR3-1600
                                        Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW
                                        FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped)
                                        120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB
                                        Delux MG760 case

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