OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
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    #21
    Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

    yes, it's critical in that application.
    you need equal or higher ripple.

    go look at something like panasonic ED or EE series.

    and if you have the height, consider 390uf
    Last edited by stj; 11-03-2015, 03:50 PM.

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    • manthi
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      • Feb 2014
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      #22
      Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

      ok thanks, going to check that

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      • Behemot
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2009
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        • CZ

        #23
        Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

        Originally posted by manthi
        add $8 shipping and you start crying,
        but everything is relative
        this morning i went to a local electronic store to see if they had anything that would fit, but i came back empty handed,
        but got a $168 ticket +3 points for failing to do a complete stop.
        so in the end that $15 with digikey is a bargain versus driving to my local store

        ok back to topic, original cap has 1.9 ripple and the one i listed has 1.44 does it matter?
        I can get it much cheaper. But its always the same…you dont need it so foten after all, you need it fast, you whatever. So I invest at least 500 bucks in that, than sell 10 pcs here and keep the rest on stock for 5+ years till I sell it out finally…nah, not really. You want, than buy it overpriced.

        What series is that teapo crap? I can find no 330/400 with 1.9 A RC.
        Last edited by Behemot; 11-03-2015, 04:18 PM.
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        • manthi
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          #24
          Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

          Originally posted by Behemot

          What series is that teapo crap? I can find no 330/400 with 1.9 A RC.
          LH
          also can someone explain me why it's ok to go with a 390 uf instead of 330, i always read that you should stick with same capacitance when replacing a capacitor
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          • Behemot
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            • Dec 2009
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            #25
            Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

            Oh I see, noticed just the 1.75A version.

            You can go with 390 just fine, you'll get less stress on PFC silicon and longer hold-up time. But the cheapest seems to be https://www.digikey.ca/product-detai...965-ND/3986864, for 390 https://www.digikey.ca/product-detai...1663-ND/483261
            Last edited by Behemot; 11-03-2015, 05:04 PM.
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            • manthi
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              #26
              Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

              ok thanks, went for https://www.digikey.ca/product-detai...1663-ND/483261
              Last edited by manthi; 11-03-2015, 10:10 PM.

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              • manthi
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                #27
                Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                ok some update,
                i replace the defective 330uf 400v capacitor (funny when i shake it i can hear moving part inside) by the one i bought (390uf 400v from panasonic) but still no power.
                so after some more reading (link given by sgtrock+ one of his post on eevblog) i found out that a TNY278P (IC501) switching regulator could have gone bad, and indeed after close inspection, i realise it has a blown leg,
                so i got to change this also.
                i also checked the q601\602 mosfet but they are ok
                Last edited by manthi; 11-09-2015, 09:46 PM.

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                • SgtRock
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                  • Feb 2012
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                  #28
                  Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                  Good work Manthi. Get er done.
                  Cheers!

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
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                    #29
                    Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                    i have *never* had or heard of a capacitor that has anything moving in it.

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                    • kaboom
                      "Oh, Grouchy!"
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2507
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                      #30
                      Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                      Originally posted by stj
                      i have *never* had or heard of a capacitor that has anything moving in it.
                      Are you sure?

                      http://320volt.com/en/cakma-kondansator/
                      "pokemon go... to hell!"

                      EOL it...
                      Originally posted by shango066
                      All style and no substance.
                      Originally posted by smashstuff30
                      guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                      guilty of being cheap-made!

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                      • stj
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                        • Dec 2009
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                        #31
                        Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                        lol
                        that's better than the original, it's got rubycon in it.

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                        • SgtRock
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 175
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                          Dear Kaboom"
                          --The British used to say that if you locked a bunch of Hong Kong merchants in a cave for twenty years, when you opened it they would have all gotten wealthy by selling rocks to each other.
                          "Does not squirell crack nuts on bough of tree."
                          La Fu (ancestor of Wun H. Lo and his brother Tu H. Lo) 1610 -1780
                          Last edited by SgtRock; 11-09-2015, 10:40 PM.

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                          • Per Hansson
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                            • Jul 2005
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                            #33
                            Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                            Please dissect the capacitor and post some pics of it's innards.
                            I guess a capacitor that has dried up completely inside could rattle around a bit.
                            Still it should be a minimal difference vs a cap filled with electrolyte...
                            Never seen or heard of something like this before so I'm curious
                            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                            • Behemot
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                              • Dec 2009
                              • 4845
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                              #34
                              Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                              I have seen (or rather heard) this quite often with lead-acid batteries. Guess that snap-in caps with big cans can to it too, there is often some room inside between the roll and the top part of the can. If you remember that opened cap from the welder I posted here and it measured fine, the roll inside was moving if you shaked it enough
                              Last edited by Behemot; 11-10-2015, 11:54 AM.
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                              • kc8adu
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                                #35
                                Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                i have a lelon 4700@50 i replaced in a rockford fosgate boom car amp.
                                if it hasnt hit the dumpster yet i will dissect it.sounds like a marble rolling around inside.its mate on the - supply is normal.replaced anyway of course.
                                Originally posted by stj
                                i have *never* had or heard of a capacitor that has anything moving in it.

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                                • manthi
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                                  • Feb 2014
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                                  #36
                                  Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                  Originally posted by Per Hansson
                                  Please dissect the capacitor and post some pics of it's innards.
                                  ok will try to do it this week, any special precaution to take before doing this, i never opened a capacitor, what is the proper procedure?

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                                  • Behemot
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                                    #37
                                    Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                    Cut the sleeve, than usually cut the aluminium can by the the rubber sealing (or you may try to pry it out using small screwdriver). Remove the rubber and than the foil roll should go out. Or cut the can more to remove it.

                                    Just be carefull to not cut yourself.
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                                    • stj
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                                      #38
                                      Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                      use sidecutters to peel the edge of the can away from the rubber bung.

                                      it may hiss when you first cut into it if pressure has built up.

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                                      • manthi
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                                        #39
                                        Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                        here it is
                                        i think it was the paper roll that was moving inside
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                                        • manthi
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                                          #40
                                          Re: OCZ 700 Watt Bug Zapper Recap & Repair

                                          oups!!
                                          received my TNY278P (IC501) switching regulator this morning, so i installed it,
                                          but as soon as i turned the power on, i heard a bang and saw some sparks inside the psu, the same part (ic501) had blown again, so i have to find what cause this

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