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  • Krankshaft
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    • Jan 2007
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    #1

    Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

    Well I've found myself buying another TP 2.0 to replace my X-Box 360 supply that overheats and causes problems with my console.

    The one on my gaming PC that I recapped has been running rock solid since July so I decided to get another one.

    So I go on E-bay and buy one around 30 bucks shipped that was supposedly just pulled from a working computer and was stated in working condition.

    So before I tear into it I decide to test it just to make sure everythings ok before I go inside.

    So I first bridge the Green on wire and with an old HDD for the dummy load the fan just jerks once and only a persistant high freqency whine prevails.

    I think there is a protection circuit kicking in.

    So then I decide to plug it into an old Slot 1 400 MHZ job and hit the power button.

    The PSU comes to life but then quickly cycles on and off I could hear the HDD spinning up and shutting down this was also seen on the power on light on the PC.

    So I immediately pull the plug to prevent any IC damage to the supply.

    I take off the cover and what a suprise. Fukyuu bulgers.

    Just a note it is SO much easier to remove the board from the case rather then flipping it back and fourth. Simply desolder the 2 voltage doubler selector switch wires from the board then desolder the AC input wires.

    Disconnect the 2 fan wires and desolder the blue fan speed wire from the riser PCB. Remove the modular connector PCB by depressing the 4 plastic tabs holding it in place. Then the board comes right out.

    The 12 volt rail filter measured at 47 ohms out of circuit.

    In my Antec the 12 volt rail had a Teapo cap on it which tells me that Antec may have been experimenting with just replacing the 12 volt cap and leaving the other crappy Fuyuus in place to save some money.

    The 12 volt rail is the tallest cap to the left.

    One of the caps next to it is for the 5 volt rail.

    Just like in my supply the 4700 caps for the 3.3 volt rail and some other rail were fine probably because they are not stressed like the 12 and 5 volt rails are. If they were put in the 12 volt or 5 volt rails I'm sure that they would meet the same demise.

    Whats funny is the 1000uf 10 volt standby caps are General Purpose. Its hilarious not only can Fukyuu not make Low ESR caps they can't make GP either . Check the pic of the 5VSB caps and you will notice some darkening around the transformer.

    My supply didn't have any darkening it is probably due to overheating of the transformer due to the bad standby caps they didn't even register on the ESR meter they were over 100 ohms. I caught my supply early.

    Luckily the input caps where Panasonic at a healthy 1200uf each. Its funny they invest in good caps on the primary and go penny pinch on the all important secondary .

    Bean counters cost more money then they save.

    Anyhow I recapped the supply with Panasonic FCs and with some coaxing I got them to fit on the secondary side. Luckily for the standby caps I had some Pana FC skinny 8mm and tall 1000uf at 10 volts that fit perfectly.

    Everything is working great now.

    But I have a question there is one cap I didn't replace its a 0.33uf at 50 volts I know these caps don't usually give trouble but this is a personal supply. That will be powering my 360 so I'm going the extra mile .

    Oddly enough I checked my records and on my identicial 500W supply I recapped there is nothing on my parts list or sales slips for the recap for this value which leads me to believe it was a different value on my supply. It probably was 0.47 uf but I can't say with absolute certainty.

    Anyhow needless to say I don't have that esoteric value (and probably will never need it again) but I do have 0.47 uf since lytics are 20% tolerance anyways would that be fine?
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    Last edited by Krankshaft; 02-15-2008, 10:40 AM.
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  • Krankshaft
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2007
    • 2328
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    #2
    Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

    I also have 3.3 uf caps but that is probably way too far off from the original value. I hate those annoying decimals after zeroes .
    Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

      Here's the list from two TP2-550's currently living in my junk box.
      - In one of these all (and only) the 10mm vented.
      - In the other all the (and only) the 8mm vented.
      [ Strange ?? ]
      -
      [4] 4700uF 10v 10mm Fuhjyyu - TM , 1580 / .038
      [2] 3300uf 16v 10mm Fuhjyyu - TM , 1580 / .024
      [2] 1000uF 10v 8mm Fuhjyyu - TN , 500 / ???
      [1] 470uf 25v 8mm Fuhjyyu - TN , 370 / ???
      [1] 47uF 35v 6mm Koshin/Fuhjyuu (different between the two PSU's)
      [1] 220uF 16v 6mm
      [1] 22uF 50V 105c 4mm
      [1] 10uF 50V 105c 4mm
      [1] 1uF 50V 105c 4mm

      If the small cap you are looking for is near the red 5v wire bundle it is the 1uF on mine.

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      • Krankshaft
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        • Jan 2007
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        #4
        Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

        Thanks for the reply here is a pic of the cap. Its all the way to the left on the secondary side right in the front.

        Its to the left of the gray (PS OK) wire.

        As you can see I replaced the caps on the fan controller too I know I'm insane. But I hate those caps that much .

        Yeah my other PSU had Koshin for General Purpose then this PSU had Fukyuu. I replaced them on my other PSU too since Koshin is no better.
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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

          Are sure this is a True Power 2?
          If so it looks like the 550w are on a different PCB than the 500w.
          I have both a 550 and a 550-EPS
          Mine have three of those coils and the long edged of that small PCB follows right along the edge of the main PCB. (Yours is set back about an inch.) Also the grey wire goes to that small PCB vs the main board.

          .

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          • PCBONEZ
            Grumpy Old Fart
            • Aug 2005
            • 10661
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

            Mine is like this one (from one of Kaine's posts).
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...achmentid=6527
            Mann-Made Global Warming.
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            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

            - Dr Seuss
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            • acstech
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              • Jul 2007
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              #7
              Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

              That layout looks very similar to my Smartpower 350's, only with larger cap values.
              A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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              • Krankshaft
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2007
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                #8
                Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                Whoops I made an error.

                It seems I got my PSU models mixed up.

                You're right acstech.

                I think my servers got the Truepower because its a 350 watt . Since the labels were the same design I thought they all were the same series the TruePower Series.

                The power supply in the pic is a SmartPower model number SP-500. Its a 500 watt supply.

                I posted a side shot of the supply before the recap to get a better look.

                Again the cap in question is the last cap on the right the one closest to the fan control riser board.

                Sorry about that hopefully were all on the same page now.
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                • acstech
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                  To be honest, I really wouldn't mess with that small cap. I just don't see it causing trouble. You've already fixed it. On my 350w, it is a 1uF 50v. So I think your replacement cap would work fine. I wouldn't bother though.

                  OBTW, wasn't it fun getting the screw in with that 12.5mm 4700uF cap there where the 10mm Fuhjyyu was?
                  A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                  • Krankshaft
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                    • Jan 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                    I know I had that same problem with my other Antec of the same model.

                    I am not looking forward to it either .

                    I can't remember how I did it I guess I'll have to relearn it so I can forget it again .

                    Getting the cover on is another obstacle with the larger caps since the wires don't all want to fall in place. With a little persuading everything fit with my other Antec so I hope I am that fortunate with this one as well.

                    On my other supply I had a problem with the exhaust fan blades hitting the standby caps. They were the short and fat ones probably 10mm wide it took some working. But I got them about 2 mm away from the fan blades .

                    On this supply I had 8mm tall and skinny caps that were alot easier and fit in place without any messing around.

                    Since then I have got up quite a large Pana FC stock in many different sizes since you learn quickly that PSUs are very cramped places.

                    Thanks for the help guys.
                    Last edited by Krankshaft; 02-16-2008, 10:51 PM.
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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
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                      #11
                      Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                      Krankshaft
                      Can you give me the complete caps list for that Smartpower?
                      I'm trying to put together some PSU rebuild lists.

                      Thanks.
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                      • bgavin
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1355

                        #12
                        Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                        I'd like a copy also, to add to my spread sheet.

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                        • PCBONEZ
                          Grumpy Old Fart
                          • Aug 2005
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                          #13
                          Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                          bgavin

                          Do you share your spread sheet?

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                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                          -
                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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                          -
                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                          • Krankshaft
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                            #14
                            Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                            Here for those who want it I posted the caps list for the SP 500W on another thread:

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...6046#post46046
                            Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                            • Kaine
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: Another Antec TP 2.0 500W Recap

                              Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                              Mine is like this one (from one of Kaine's posts).
                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...achmentid=6527
                              I still haven't got that supply working by the way. It's living under my desk, haven't got much time these days with uni(electronic engineering yay)

                              maybe i'll get a chance to bring it in to one of the labs and stick it on a CRO. I know it's not worth the effort for a broken psu i bought for $20 but it has become a matter of personal pride. I'm sure you've all been there

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