Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need recap!

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  • goodpsusearch
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    • Oct 2009
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    #1

    Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need recap!

    There are some Samxon GF, bad or going bad there.

    Otherwise, not bad, but the heatsinks block the airflow. Someone should have thought that..

    Thermaltake Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) photos and datasheets:

    This is not modular. Btw look at this:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1394484058
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    Last edited by goodpsusearch; 03-10-2014, 02:47 PM.
  • goodpsusearch
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    #2
    Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

    Thermaltake Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163)

    Bad 5vsb cap. Also some of the small caps have very high esr and need to be replaced like the other thermaltake.



    It will be a pain in the ass to recap those psus without removing the heatsinks but I think I can do it.
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    • c_hegge
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      • Sep 2009
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      #3
      Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

      They are indeed a pain to recap without removing the heatsinks, but I have done it before. I figured that, since they are double layer PCBs, it would probably be just as hard to remove them.
      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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      • mockingbird
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

        Looks like a CWT PSH design of olde...

        Looks like the only difference between the other rebrands and this is that Thermaltake used off-brand caps whereas the others used Japanese caps. Still have one (Xigmatek NRP-MC751) going strong.

        The modular cables are not compatible with Seasonic modular PSUs because they are keyed differently.

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        • Half-Saint
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

          Do you think it would make sense to cut off the overhanging parts of heatsinks?

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          • c_hegge
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            • Sep 2009
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            #6
            Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

            ^
            no, because that would reduce their surface to air contact and thus cripple their cooling capability
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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            • Half-Saint
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              • Jan 2010
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              #7
              Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

              Well I'm thinking that perhaps the fan would do a better job, if the fins weren't obstructing the airflow?

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              • goodpsusearch
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                #8
                Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                The fan would do a better job for the caps and other components but not for the silicon attached to the heatsinks..

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                • goodpsusearch
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                  #9
                  Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                  This Q-Fan system is badly designed. The psu is supposed to inhale air from the side openings of the psu case, but it ends up putting out air from there, reducing the airflow that cools down the psu...

                  http://xtreview.com/images/850-%20W%...an%20%2001.jpg

                  http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...r2-qfan/26.jpg

                  I fan modded the psu with a 10kohm resistor in parallel with the thermistor. I couldn't use a lower value resistor, because then the psu would assume that it is too hot and the fan would keep spinning even when PC is off. This is an interesting design.

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                  • Half-Saint
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                    Would it be possible to straighten the fins without breaking them? They look a bit fragile..

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                    • TELVM
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                      • Oct 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                      Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                      This Q-Fan system is badly designed. The psu is supposed to inhale air from the side openings of the psu case, but it ends up putting out air from there, reducing the airflow that cools down the psu...

                      http://xtreview.com/images/850-%20W%...an%20%2001.jpg

                      http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...r2-qfan/26.jpg
                      Those slots are plain self-sabotage, they destroy any static pressure. There is a strong reason why impellers need to be shrouded:



                      http://www.freeasestudyguides.com/ac...-air-flow.html


                      I'd seal the slots with tape and replace that unshrouded crap fan with a real one.

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                      • goodpsusearch
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                        #12
                        Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                        Originally posted by Half-Saint
                        Would it be possible to straighten the fins without breaking them? They look a bit fragile..
                        I tried to bend one and it broke

                        As you can see in the picture this helped me change the 3 small caps underneath. The whole procedure required patience and using more than 1 tweezers simultaneously.

                        First you have to take out the orginal caps, using tweezers. Then you clean the holes with the needle trick. Then you try to place the new caps, using tweezers and a screwdriver if necessary. The long leads of the new caps help a lot!
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                        • pfrcom
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                          • Jun 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                          Thermaltake Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163)

                          Bad 5vsb cap.
                          Is that the one at C39 ?

                          I was given a Toughpower 750 Qfan in non-working condition

                          Had a bulging OST RLP 2200uf 16v at C39

                          Replaced it with a Panasonic FJ 1800uf 16v recycled from forgotten defunct motherboard - closest I had which would fit

                          Now the Toughpower works

                          Certainly is a pain in the ass to work on - replaced in situ with the main PCB tilted to one side, like doing keyhole surgery
                          better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                          • pfrcom
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                            #14
                            Re: Thermaltake: Toughpower QFan 650W (W0163) & Toughpower PSH 700V (W0105) need reca

                            --> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...0&postcount=13
                            better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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