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  • Vampy_1110
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    • Feb 2024
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    Modifying output voltage of an Old Dell laptop charger

    I'm trying to turn this old dell laptop psu into a variable power supply (5-19.5) as i have already modified a few power supplies before and now i want to do the same with this but it's a bit complicated
    The pic below has an op-amp ic (Z103WA) that does the CC/CV adjustments and a double diode 3 pin ic at the far right
    As you can see there's no TL431 or Switching ic self-regulations that i can tweak easily.
    Any help would be appreciated

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  • stj
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    • Dec 2009
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    #2
    i see an optocoupler,
    so on the secondary side you need to look how it works with no tl431
    maybe it has a zener diode

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    • MegaZAC
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      • Oct 2020
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      #3
      $3 step down dc-dc board from Aliexpress will keep the psu and save you time. And will have a voltage screen, handy connectors, and be used with othe psus when this one dies.

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      • Vampy_1110
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        #4
        Originally posted by stj
        i see an optocoupler,
        so on the secondary side you need to look how it works with no tl431
        maybe it has a zener diode
        The opto coupler is directly connected to the double diode 3 pin ic
        Removed the sticky glue at the top side and no I don't see any zener
        I attached a schematic from TLW03WA ic (similar to mine) from it's datasheet
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        • Vampy_1110
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          #5
          Originally posted by MegaZAC
          $3 step down dc-dc board from Aliexpress will keep the psu and save you time. And will have a voltage screen, handy connectors, and be used with othe psus when this one dies.
          $3 dollars there are 30$ here (Inflation sadly sucks here)
          Plus i'm not going to spend money on this Psu as it's a decade old one and i'm just trying to find a use for it

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          • harp
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            • Jun 2022
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            #6
            So you have only few resistor on right side of opamp, how about to paralel with each of it solder 100k potentiometer and monitor the output while rotating?

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            • noppa
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              • Feb 2010
              • 41

              #7
              To set the voltage reference 1% resistors are usually used. I would try modifying R70 or R73 and see what happens.
              Can't read the marking on D74, but this could be a zener or a 431.

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              • stj
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                #8
                i see a 2.5v reference in that schematic

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                • redwire
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  The TL103 operates like a TL431, so you have the usual two resistors going to pin 2 for voltage setpoint.
                  R77 27k+RX71 4k7, R85 5k6 (to GND) my math give a 16.6V output.

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                  • Vampy_1110
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                    • Feb 2024
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                    #10
                    Modifying R76 (472) does change the voltage a bit but the supply makes a ticking noise and goes into some sort of protection when the voltage drops below 18 volts so i can change voltage between 19 and 18 volts 😂....
                    There must be a preset resistor that does the UV/OV protection or ig R76 ain't the one im supposed to change

                    Edit: Putting a load on it stops the ticking and stabilizes the voltage but any no load voltage below 15 volts causes it to go tick tick mode
                    R76 is the most effective at changing voltage, the rest have little or no effect at the right side of op-amp in the image with red with no effect yellow with little and green with the maximum effect (all the way from 25 to 10 volts but with ticking)
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                    • stj
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                      #11
                      switching psu's arent supposed to run without a load, maybe consider a load resistor.

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                      • Vampy_1110
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by stj
                        switching psu's arent supposed to run without a load, maybe consider a load resistor.
                        It works fine between 15-19 volts but starts to go into protection on off on off mode below 15 volts with no load
                        I think it has to do with some sort of short circuit protection because low voltage no current causes it to go into protection but im scared of touching RX85 and RX94 current sense resistors because this psu can go upto 120 watts so it will nuke itself at lower voltages

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                        • MegaZAC
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                          #13
                          I have similar Dell laptop supplies that have some sort of power saving standby, wo when you just turn it on it gives 19.5V, but a few second later without load it drops voltage to just above 0. But as soon as you connect anything taking load it will instantly give you 19V again. And certanly there is a low voltage protection too. The datasheet that you refered to tried exactly 15v in testing: Short-circuit to GND VCC+ = 15V.

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                          • Vampy_1110
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MegaZAC
                            I have similar Dell laptop supplies that have some sort of power saving standby, wo when you just turn it on it gives 19.5V, but a few second later without load it drops voltage to just above 0. But as soon as you connect anything taking load it will instantly give you 19V again. And certanly there is a low voltage protection too. The datasheet that you refered to tried exactly 15v in testing: Short-circuit to GND VCC+ = 15V.
                            Just need to bypass this low voltage protection ig

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