Deer DR-A300ATX so close to decent!

[goodpsusearch]

The best Deer/L&C I have got so far. It has even MOV protection! There are 3 MOV, 1 in parallel to each primary cap and a big one in parallel of both!

There is also
2 X caps
5 Y caps
2 coils
NTC thermistor
RS405 bridge rectifier
impressive heatsinks
big primary transformer good for 300W+

Too bad that the primary caps are fake 470uF caps and their real capacity is 316uF.

The primary switching transistors are 2x C4106. These are even worse than 13007.... What were they thinking??

The PWM IC is chip of the year 2003.

The output filters are complete. There are no missing coils or caps. 5V and 3.3V each use 2x2200uF but the caps got cooked from minimum load resistors. The 12V output has 1 2200uF G-Luxon capacitor.

Let's check the secondary rectifiers. The 5V rectifier is SBL3040PT, the 3.3V rectifier is only 16A (SBL1640CT), so the label is 100% lying and the 12V rectifier is UF1002F, good for just 10A.

I could try replacing the 12V rectifier with something better, recap just the bad caps and put the psu back to the computer that it was powering for more than 7 years. The customer cannot afford buying a new power supply and this one is just not worth a full recap with Japanese caps.

The computer it came out is a Pentium 4 2.66MHZ, 512MB DDR, G-Force4 MX 128MB, 80GB IDE WD, DVD-ROM, DVD-RW, PCI Lan and a Winfast TV 2000 XP.

[TELVM]

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... There are 3 MOV, 1 in parallel to each primary cap and a big one in parallel of both! ...

Very interesting, any pic with the location of the third MOV in parallel with both big caps please?

[goodpsusearch]

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Very interesting, any pic with the location of the third MOV in parallel with both big caps please?

Here!

[tom66]

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More likely, the caps died just from ripple current rather than minimum load resistor heat. Several of the bad caps are far enough from the resistors for it to make little difference. They are crappy caps; looks like CapXon for some of them?

[goodpsusearch]

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5vsb caps are Capxon,
3.3V caps are Canicon(bulging),
5V caps are Junfu(bulging),
12V capacitor is G-Luxon.

[TELVM]

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Here!

Thanks!

[tom66]

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Wow, Capxon not failed when every other cap did?
I'm impressed or surprised. Not sure which.

[ben7]

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Replace all the caps, and the 12v rectifier, and that will be a sweet PSU!

[Per Hansson]

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1000:th post, congratz goodpsusearch!
With a name like that you know you just need to fix this PSU up, it deserves it

[PeteS in CA]

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I wonder if the "2003" on the PWM is the vendor part number. A lot of other components have 02XX date codes, and elsewhere on the PWM is the characters "0225". But whether built in 2002 or 2003, this P/S has lasted a long time. If it has been in use for most of those 9 or 10 years I'd guess those bad caps are wear-out failures. Those heatsinks are impressive - when it comes to power and heatsinks, heavy metal is goodness! Uprating the 12V rectifier and possibly the switch transistors (got any stray 13007s or 13009s?), and replacing the bad caps might give your customer another 2 or 3 years' service from that computer.

[eccerr0r]

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I hate things that are hard to seach for... I've seen some PSUs with "2003" on them and initially thought they were a ULN2003 which doesn't quite make too much sense in a SMPS... but then I found this:

http://www.eejournal.org/journal/201...tic-tl494-2003

(which is a blog that's of bcn quality)...

By that site it seems to imply the 2003 is not a tl494 but used similar to one...

Mystery...

[TELVM]

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Why that cut in the secondary heatsink just above the +3.3V rectifier? To improve airflow? To save aluminum?

[ben7]

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Is that PFC choke legit?!

[goodpsusearch]

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1000:th post, congratz goodpsusearch!
With a name like that you know you just need to fix this PSU up, it deserves it

Thank you very much

Uprating the 12V rectifier and possibly the switch transistors (got any stray 13007s or 13009s?), and replacing the bad caps might give your customer another 2 or 3 years' service from that computer.

Well, about that, I replaced the UF1002F with an MBR20100, and the 12V cap (2200uF 16V) with a 3300uF 16V.

I also replaced the critical 5vsb capacitor (22uF 50V) because it showed 12uF and high esr.

5vsb is ok but when shorting green to ground it doesn't power on. All the rails try to turn on for a second except the 12V.

Could the MBR20100 be incompatible? I have used it at half bridge psus on 12V without any problem till now...

Why that cut in the secondary heatsink just above the +3.3V rectifier? To improve airflow? To save aluminum?

It is there for the PPFC to fit.

Is that PFC choke legit?!

I think it is real.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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5vsb is ok but when shorting green to ground it doesn't power on. All the rails try to turn on for a second except the 12V.

You sure the diode you put in isn't shorted? Also recheck your soldering on the 12v output cap.

[kc8adu]

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did it still fire up before you started?
one step at a time and check your work at each stage.
but yes if that has been going since 2003 its had a good life.
see a ton of those branded allied here.recap and good as new.oil the fan too.

[goodpsusearch]

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You sure the diode you put in isn't shorted? Also recheck your soldering on the 12v output cap.

My bad

The MBR20100 had very short legs for that psu and it was impossible to make good contact with the PCB no matter how much solder I used...

I ordered some MUR1620CT but I have to return the computer sooner than I receive the rectifiers, so I used an F12C20. The TO-220AB package will help in better heat dissipation than the fully insulated package of the rectifier it originally had.

did it still fire up before you started?
one step at a time and check your work at each stage.
but yes if that has been going since 2003 its had a good life.
see a ton of those branded allied here.recap and good as new.oil the fan too.

I oiled the fan, thanks for reminding me! I was surprised to see that it had some lubricant inside already. I don't know if it was in good condition though. It was not transparent.

[Pentium4]

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This looks very similar to my old Allied power supply manufactured in Feb. 2002. Deer built better PSU's back in the day...

[goodpsusearch]

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This looks very similar to my old Allied power supply manufactured in Feb. 2002. Deer built better PSU's back in the day...

Very good power supply! What brand and series are the 4 caps that failed?

[Pentium4]

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Very good power supply! What brand and series are the 4 caps that failed?

I know I wish Deer still made PSU's like these 2! DON caps, they failed terribly didn't they? The rest is that single Jun Fu, and the smaller ones are a mix between G-Luxon and Elite