Are L&C same as LC- Power?

[gonzo0815]

Hi all.

I`v read some about the bad L&C PSU`S. In Germany there are many Locations who offeres LC-Power PSU`S. At the moment i think those LC-Power are not the best ones, but at least the protection circuits seems to work properly, and ok ift the 550w unit delivers only 350w this will not hurt for most systems. So i bought one of those PSU`S. Normaly i only use FSP, Enermax or Seasonic.
Now it would be interesting if those L&C are the same manufacturer like LC-Power. In that case, i think i replace it with an Fortron FSP 350-60THA-P (i have two of them laying around) Price for 550w LC-Power unit about 25 to 35€.

[larrymoencurly]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

L&C is one of the Deer brands, which also include Allied, Codegen, Austin, L&C, Logic, Hyena, Eagle, Foxconn, Foxlink, Hercules, Realpower, Turbolink (most), Apex (maybe), PowerUp, US-Can. But LC-Power may be a different company because http://terasan.info/dengen/no080/index.html shows pictures of a 450W Evergreen Silent King LW-6450 PSU that looks very similar on the outside to the LC-6550, and the UL registration number, E181356 (www.ul.com), indicates that it was made by SHENZHEN CHI YUAN INDUSTRIAL CO LTD (Huntkey? Nextwave). PSUs with 120mm fans can use smaller heatsinks than PSUs of similar power ratings but with smaller fans.

OTOH the website also shows this 400W model: http://terasan.info/dengen/no066_3/index.html, also with the same UL number, that looks less substantial, at least in its heatsinks (smaller than even the 350W model).

Can you post pictures of the interior?

[gonzo0815]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

THX for answer, at the moment i can`t make picture, that is not my system. I build that system for a friend, but as soon i will see him i will make some pictures. First of all i am glad to hear that those isn`t the same manufacturer. I know that several of the LC-Powe units had benn failed soon, but in all cases the protection circuit worked, and no damage to the system.
So in my opinion its similar to Seasonic`s oem PSU`s. I have several of them which are either doa or died after several days. In the other case the seasonics ar ok, sure not pefect.

[Newbie2]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

LC- power supplies are commonly known to be made by L&C, but larrymoencurly (I'm scared of his avatar) is right in his thing.

I have one L&C power supply model number, LC-B450 E (also LC-B450E).

Take note of the UL file number and post it. The UL file number for L&C power supplies I saw are E164554.

Is the LC- power supply lightweight and has a casing that is made out of something like sheet metal?

[Newbie2]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

The pictures attached are of an L&C I have in storage.

[Chris1992]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

Typical crap. They post an insanely high 5v rail to get the total up to 450 watt or wherever. AFAIK, no system can draw that much on 5v so that claim is unverifiable without testing equipment.

[Newbie2]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

The casing for L&C power supplies are made out of sheet metal, or a thin metal. The L&C LC-B450 E 450W power supply I have is slightly bent on the bottom. It took very little effort to just bend the metal of the L&C casing.

[Chris1992]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

yup. I have generic 300w with easily bent sheet metal casing, powering celeron 433.

[gonzo0815]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

here are some pictures, i only refer to retail LC-power psu, those oem init accompanied by a case are in my opinion alway crap, no mather of the manufacturer.

http://www.silenthardware.de/images/...00/inside1.jpg

http://www.silenthardware.de/showpic...45c3dc791abecc

http://www.silenthardware.de/images/...oweroutput.jpg

[Newbie2]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

That would be safe to use, to me it looks well-built.

It gets safe-to-use certification from me.

[willawake]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

it has panasonic primary caps, what a suprise. I saw one of those 550's in a shop window here today, i forget the price but it was something like just under 50 euro. i would like to see the caps on the other side, i can identify a teapo but no more than that.

it doesnt look too bad although the heatsinks are quite poor. you would not be getting a 550w like you expected but it is not crap. anyway a decent 550 would be in the region of 120 euro here.

[Chris1992]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

Probably you'd get around 300-350 watt from that. Looks nice.

[gonzo0815]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

Tha is exactly my opinion on that. Most important for me if a psu is safe. If a new AMD 64 system would be burned nothing is gained. And of course, 550w for 35€ could not be archieved at the moment. But for an normal AMD 64 system 350w is realy a lot more power than needed.

[larrymoencurly]

Re: Are L&C same as LC- Power?

With a 120mm fan, those small heatsinks may be OK because even 120mm Seasonics in this power range have heatsinks that don't seem to be much bigger.