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  • Techtiger
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    • Oct 2014
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    #41
    Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

    After replacing the cap bios chip PIN 8 any voltage change & power button any change?
    Last edited by Techtiger; 01-30-2019, 08:40 AM.

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    • Techtiger
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      #42
      Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

      resistance in PL13 ? PL13 +3VPCU present ? PD26 PIN 2 15V ?

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      • on/off
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        #43
        Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

        Originally posted by IamPritesh
        Which component could be resposonsible for the volrage drop ?
        When I mount the PD27 then I get around 7.5 volt on pin 3 and then i mount PD28 then I get 9.9 volt on Pin 3.

        Also is the gate voltage on PQ59 correct ?
        Resistance on PC61?

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        • IamPritesh
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          #44
          Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

          Originally posted by techtiger
          resistance in PL13 ? PL13 +3VPCU present ? PD26 PIN 2 15V ?
          Resistance on PL13 is around 180 ohms.
          PL13 +3VPCU is present

          PD26 has no voltage on PIN2

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          • IamPritesh
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            #45
            Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

            Since there is no Voltage in BAT+ . I have measured the voltages on the charging IC chip and they are as follows

            PU10 ( ISL88731CHRTZ )


            Pin 2 - 3.54 ( ACIN)
            Pin 3 - 3.16 ( VREF)
            Pin 4 - 0 Volt (ICOMP)
            Pin 6 - 0Volt (VCOMP)
            Pin 8 - 0 Volt (ICM)
            Pin 9 - 3.36 ( SDA)
            Pin 10 - 3.36 (SCL )
            Pin 11 - 3.34 (VDDSMB)
            Pin 13- 3.93 ( ACOK)
            Pin 15 - 0 Volt (VFB)
            Pin 17 - 0 volt
            Pin 18- 0 Volt
            Pin 20 - 0 volt
            Pin 21 - 5.05
            Pin 22 - 18.95
            Pin 23 - 0 Volt
            Pin 24 - 0 Volt
            Pin 25 - 4.95
            Pin 26 - 5.05
            Pin 27 - 19.38
            Pin 28 - 19.38



            Is this IC faulty ? Please help.
            Last edited by IamPritesh; 01-31-2019, 02:44 AM.

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            • dj_ricoh
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              • Jan 2013
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              • uk

              #46
              Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

              Now measure the Resistance on the same chip.
              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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              • IamPritesh
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                • Aug 2017
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                #47
                Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                Originally posted by dj_ricoh
                now measure the resistance on the same chip.
                2- 640
                3- 1000
                4- 1005
                6- 1020
                8 - 917
                9- 633
                10- 645
                11- 178
                13- 667
                15- 281
                16- 280
                17-180
                18- 186
                20- 545
                21- 560
                22- 825
                23-176
                24- 770
                25- 750
                26- 557
                27- 622
                28- 621

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                • on/off
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                  #48
                  Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                  Originally posted by IamPritesh
                  Resistance on PL13 is around 180 ohms.
                  PL13 +3VPCU is present

                  PD26 has no voltage on PIN2
                  I think @techtiger was typo, what he means of course PD28 pin2

                  What about the resistance on PD28 pin2?
                  Last edited by on/off; 01-31-2019, 03:13 AM.

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                  • IamPritesh
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                    #49
                    Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                    Originally posted by on/off
                    I think @techtiger was typo, what he means of course PD28 pin2

                    What about the resistance on PD28 pin2?
                    Thanks for your response . Resistance on PD28 is around 1.8K Ohms
                    Resistance on PD27 Pin 1 is 170 ohms.

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                    • on/off
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                      #50
                      Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                      My expextation should be 200K or more on PD28 pin2, ( maybe your lead probe black on point and red probe on gnd, right)

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                      • IamPritesh
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                        #51
                        Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                        Originally posted by on/off
                        My expextation should be 200K or more on PD28 pin2, ( maybe your lead probe black on point and red probe on gnd, right)
                        Yes red on ground and black on the test point. Multimeter set at 2K ohms range.

                        How exactly is the 15V generated . Does this diode internally increase the voltage from 5V to 15V ?

                        Update : If I set the multimeter range at 20K then I get 5.99 resistance on PD28 Pin 2.
                        Last edited by IamPritesh; 01-31-2019, 03:46 AM.

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                        • on/off
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                          #52
                          Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                          Seem fine if ~500K.

                          What voltages on PQ65 and PQ44?

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                          • IamPritesh
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                            #53
                            Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                            Originally posted by on/off
                            Seem fine if ~500K.

                            What voltages on PQ65 and PQ44?

                            PQ65
                            Pin 3 - 4.85 Volt
                            Pin 2 - 0 Volt
                            Pin 1 - Ground

                            PQ44

                            Pin 3 - 4.9 and rest all pins have 3.3 volt.

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                            • on/off
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                              #54
                              Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                              Now, measure the resistance on PD27 pin2

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                              • on/off
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                                #55
                                Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                Originally posted by IamPritesh
                                Yes red on ground and black on the test point. Multimeter set at 2K ohms range.

                                How exactly is the 15V generated . Does this diode internally increase the voltage from 5V to 15V ?

                                Update : If I set the multimeter range at 20K then I get 5.99 resistance on PD28 Pin 2.
                                Here: on Page 35

                                https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...ed6b68ec05.pdf

                                I think because drop 15V be 10V, the problem had effect to MAIND signal, didn't generated 5V_S5 be 5V and so on.

                                EDIT: should be page 36
                                Last edited by on/off; 01-31-2019, 04:32 AM.

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                                • dj_ricoh
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                                  #56
                                  Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                  I small Q did you reflash the bios or test to see if the chip it's ok?
                                  Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                  • IamPritesh
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                                    #57
                                    Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                    Originally posted by dj_ricoh
                                    I small Q did you reflash the bios or test to see if the chip it's ok?
                                    I did flash it with one the bin file found on the internet. Should I revert back to the original one where atleast I could the LED glowing ?

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                                    • IamPritesh
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                                      #58
                                      Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                      Originally posted by on/off
                                      Here: on Page 35

                                      https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...ed6b68ec05.pdf

                                      I think because drop 15V be 10V, the problem had effect to MAIND signal, didn't generated 5V_S5 be 5V and so on.

                                      EDIT: should be page 36

                                      Should I change the pm6686 IC ? Or maybe the replaced diode itself could be faulty again ?

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                                      • IamPritesh
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                                        #59
                                        Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                        Originally posted by dj_ricoh
                                        I small Q did you reflash the bios or test to see if the chip it's ok?
                                        I reflashed the bios chip with the original file , it still does not start. But I do have 3.3 volt on Pin 8. Earlier it was only 1 volt.

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                                        • on/off
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                                          #60
                                          Re: Sony MBX 247 Laptop Dead. Need help ( Pics attached )

                                          Originally posted by IamPritesh
                                          Should I change the pm6686 IC ? Or maybe the replaced diode itself could be faulty again ?
                                          No. I think PM6686 is fine. You didn't answer my question about resitance PD27 on pin2.
                                          Last edited by on/off; 01-31-2019, 05:22 AM.

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