Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

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  • mattpd
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2012
    • 301
    • USA

    #1

    Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

    Schematics here:

    AC adapter had 19v, but when you plug it into the laptop it drops to 0v, so I started hunting for a short. I was able to find PQ6 or PQ7 shorted. I removed both and now 19v is present at the laptop. Unfortunately there is still a short somewhere else down the line. The 19v can be measured at the source of PQ6, but there is no gate voltage and also no drain voltage.

    I can detect the short to ground on the pin 2 and 4 side of PR14. I can detect it on many of the inductors like PL3, PL7, PL13, PL17, PL22, PL24.

    Where should I be looking for this short?
    Last edited by mattpd; 02-12-2016, 02:41 PM.
  • dj_ricoh
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 2073
    • uk

    #2
    Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

    you need to inject 3-4 v in the line.

    on those pads where you took of the fets solder a wire and connect it to a PSU and give it a minute and it will heat up.

    this method i use for every short finding.

    when i close and feel the heat i use IPA and the shorted component will evaporate the IPA
    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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    • Pragmatiko
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      • Jul 2013
      • 468
      • IT

      #3
      Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

      Originally posted by dj_ricoh
      you need to inject 3-4 v in the line.

      on those pads where you took of the fets solder a wire and connect it to a PSU and give it a minute and it will heat up.

      this method i use for every short finding.

      when i close and feel the heat i use IPA and the shorted component will evaporate the IPA

      great...

      i am thinking to buy an infrared camera (spend many money)

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      • dj_ricoh
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 2073
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

        I wish i had that amount of money for that thermal camera
        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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        • mattpd
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2012
          • 301
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

          Originally posted by dj_ricoh
          you need to inject 3-4 v in the line.

          on those pads where you took of the fets solder a wire and connect it to a PSU and give it a minute and it will heat up.

          this method i use for every short finding.

          when i close and feel the heat i use IPA and the shorted component will evaporate the IPA
          Only 3 or 4 volts? As far as I can tell the short in on B+ rail which is 18v, right?

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          • rookieme
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            • Oct 2014
            • 396
            • Greece

            #6
            Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

            If it has low resistance a 1,5V battery cell usually does the job, if not I use a 18650 lithium 3,7V+.
            It should be a shorted capacitor....

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            • dj_ricoh
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 2073
              • uk

              #7
              Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

              It's more likely to be a and cap.
              That cap its rated 2.5v so you need more then that to make it great up faster.
              3-4 from psu 1amp to 1.5 will heat that sucker in 1-2 min.
              Use IPA to confirm
              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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              • mattpd
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2012
                • 301
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

                Originally posted by rookieme
                If it has low resistance a 1,5V battery cell usually does the job, if not I use a 18650 lithium 3,7V+.
                It should be a shorted capacitor....
                Sweet. A 18650 worked perfectly. Shorted cap found and removed which cleared up the board of shorts.

                How do I go about replacing it though? It's unmarked, so without some board view software I can't tell it's original value.

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                • rs232killer
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 89
                  • Portugal

                  #9
                  Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

                  Hi
                  we use a Flir camera to find badcaps

                  regards
                  RS

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                  • cyberhack
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 466
                    • Uk

                    #10
                    Re: Gateway NE56R10U (Compal P5WE0 LA-6901P) need to find short to ground.

                    I'll stick with the finger test,as them flir camera's are expensive.

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