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  • dbuergi
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    #1

    Macbook A2442 no display board 820-02098

    Hi all,

    i got a Macbook A2442 which statrts normal but is not showing any picture. Using an external monitor works fine. After opening the Macbook i found a dried up line of liquid damage around CN979, RD503, and UP730. I cleaned up everything and also unsoldered the chips to clean the pads. There were no shorts before but i still don't have any picture. Sometimes you can see a glimpse of light in the middle of the display.
    So before i change the whole display i want to make sure that it's not any issue with the logicboard. So any ideas what i can check next?
  • dbuergi
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    #2
    Update here, there was some dirt under UP800. Reballed the chip, checked with USB-C tester (everything fine and 20v), but it back in the case and started the Macbook. I got the chime and suddenly it went off.
    I think my big mistake was to use it with my HP docking station via USB-C...
    No i have a short on PPBUS_AON (5V and 0,00 to 0,01A). Injecting 1V with 5A only showed head at my injection spot. Any ideas what to do? Since there are many tantal caps i could go up with the voltage?

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    • mon2
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      #3
      Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. What is the exact resistance to ground of PPBUS_AON?

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      • dbuergi
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        #4
        Hello mon2,

        it's 0,4 Ohm.

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        • mon2
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          #5
          Flux and remove fuses F5200 and F5201 off the board.

          Then confirm which side of the removed fuses is shorted. Is it the producer (ISL; upstream) or consumer (downstream) side with the low resistance to ground?

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          • dbuergi
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            #6
            Consumer side shows 0 Ohm.
            Just to be sure with ISL you mean U5200 right?

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            • mon2
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              #7
              Yes, ISL = U5200 = upstream point of view from the fuses.

              To confirm, fuse F5200 / F5201, pin #2 = downstream and is the side with the short?

              If you power up now, without the referenced fuses, what is the voltage to ground of PPBUS_AON as measured on fuse pad # 1 of F5200 or F201?

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              • dbuergi
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                #8
                Yes it's the downstream.
                Pad 1 on both fuses show 12,28V.

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                • mon2
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                  #9
                  Would you have a thermal camera? Suggest to remove the heatsink off the CPU and inject 1v only onto fuse pad # 2. You should see a high current spike and the device that is shorted should glow like a Christmas light. Check top / bottom side of the board for hot spots. For now, do not go higher than 1v. The high current injection should be ample to make the shorted part suffer.

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                  • dbuergi
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                    #10
                    Made a voltage injection and LP800, QP800 and QP803 are heating up. So it should be something faulty in this area?
                    Any conclusion or do i have to take surrounding caps and mosfets out to find the shortet component? Maybe i should start with QP800 and QP803 to check if they have an internal short?
                    At least it speaks for my test with the HP dock to cause this fault to the backlight circuit.
                    Last edited by dbuergi; 05-28-2025, 02:16 AM.

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                    • dbuergi
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                      #11
                      Double post sorry

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                      • dbuergi
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mon2
                        Would you have a thermal camera? Suggest to remove the heatsink off the CPU and inject 1v only onto fuse pad # 2. You should see a high current spike and the device that is shorted should glow like a Christmas light. Check top / bottom side of the board for hot spots. For now, do not go higher than 1v. The high current injection should be ample to make the shorted part suffer.
                        I guess i found the faulty chip. I unsoldered LP800 to isulate the short even more and after removing QP800 short is gone. I'm going to get a replacement from Digikey asap.
                        One more question since my UP800 shows a little crack at one corner. Is it safe to get a replacement from Aliexpress or is any extra proramming / special donor chip needed?​

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                        • dbuergi
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                          #13
                          So it's me again. I replaced everything and the MacBook starts but still only works with external display.
                          Opening and closing the MacBook doesn't change anything the external display stays on.
                          Is there any way to continue finding my fault or how to exclude that i have a logicboard problem?

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                          • mon2
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                            #14
                            Review your lid angle sensor. Believe there is an open-source project on github to perform the calibration of this sensor.

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                            • dbuergi
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mon2
                              Review your lid angle sensor. Believe there is an open-source project on github to perform the calibration of this sensor.
                              I took the sensor out and while testing a cap just came off. I will try to clean everything and solder it back first but maybe i have to get a new cable and transfer the chip.
                              And more observation i can't Start the MacBook with the power button. I have to use a USB or magsafe cable to make it boot. After this i can removed it and it works.
                              So does this also come down to a non working lid angle sensor?
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                              Last edited by dbuergi; 06-15-2025, 09:13 AM.

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                              • mon2
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                                #16
                                Yes, the fault can be linked to the angle sensor. If my fading memory is correct, I recall an open-source (Arduino) github project to calibrate the lid sensor. Apparently you can also purchase these angle lid sensors from 3rd party but need to calibrate the replacements. There is at least one YT video on how to align the sensor without tools. Without proper alignment or operation of this sensor, the board will assume the lid is closed. I will try to see if I can hunt down the article but believe it is the nerd tool device. It is very possible that the project is no longer open source. Fairly confident it was ESP32 module based and full code was posted.

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                                • dbuergi
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mon2
                                  Yes, the fault can be linked to the angle sensor. If my fading memory is correct, I recall an open-source (Arduino) github project to calibrate the lid sensor. Apparently you can also purchase these angle lid sensors from 3rd party but need to calibrate the replacements. There is at least one YT video on how to align the sensor without tools. Without proper alignment or operation of this sensor, the board will assume the lid is closed. I will try to see if I can hunt down the article but believe it is the nerd tool device. It is very possible that the project is no longer open source. Fairly confident it was ESP32 module based and full code was posted.
                                  So before i get any programmer getting a 3rd party cable and transfer the data chip from my faulty cable would also solve this calibration? Found some videos where they did this.
                                  I'm just not sure if i miss any fault on the board. I don't get any voltage readings at QP800 and surrounding area so can this be a hint for "display sleep state"?

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                                  • mon2
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                                    #18
                                    On the lid sensor, see here:

                                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u18D_NPGhzQ

                                    update: finally found the GitHub link

                                    https://github.com/Vladislav98759/Ma...libration-Tool

                                    Last edited by mon2; 06-15-2025, 03:45 PM.

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                                    • dbuergi
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mon2
                                      On the lid sensor, see here:

                                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u18D_NPGhzQ

                                      update: finally found the GitHub link

                                      https://github.com/Vladislav98759/Ma...libration-Tool
                                      My new angle sensor cable arrived, i changed the chips and with charger connected the Macbooks starts when i open it up but still no display. -.-
                                      Is there any way to make sure that i have to change the whole screen?
                                      Can the voltages in the area of Q801 to Q803 help to identify a bad screen?
                                      Right now i only get 12v at CW116
                                      4,8v at CP822 and CP823
                                      But nothing else.

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                                      • dbuergi
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                                        #20
                                        Just to add some voltages:
                                        BKLT_BOOST_THROTTLE_LUXE_L 1,2v (should be 3v for a boost right?)

                                        JP900:
                                        Pin 1 0,37v in Diode mode
                                        Pin 6 0,37v in Diode mode

                                        So backlight communication with M1 chip should be fine?
                                        Last edited by dbuergi; Yesterday, 02:13 PM.

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