HP 15-cb028nl (dag75ambad0 rev. d) no charge battery

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  • zaurus81
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2021
    • 67
    • Italy

    #1

    HP 15-cb028nl (dag75ambad0 rev. d) no charge battery

    Hi all, I have a HP 15-cb028nl (dag75ambad0 rev. d) that turns on but does not charge the battery. The laptop arrived with the super I/O (ITE IT8987E BXA) burned. After replacing the EC, it turns on but does not charge the battery. Below are the voltages on the pins of the bq24738h, with and without the battery inserted:
    WITHOUT BATTERY WITH BATTERY
    PIN1 (ACN)= 19.76 V PIN1 (ACN)= 19.76 V
    PIN2 (ACP)= 19.76 V PIN2 (ACP)= 19.76 V
    PIN3 (CMSRC)= 19.74 V PIN3 (CMSRC)= 19.74 V
    PIN4 (ACDRV)= 25.66 V PIN4 (ACDRV)= 25.66 V
    PIN5 (ACPRES)= 3.00 V PIN5 (ACPRES)= 3.00 V
    PIN6 (ACDET)= 2.68 V PIN6 (ACDET)= 2.68 V
    PIN7 (IOUT)= 0.00 V PIN7 (IOUT)= 0.00 V
    PIN8 (SDA)= 3.22 V PIN8 (SDA)= 3.09 V
    PIN9 (SCL)= 3.22 V PIN9 (SCL)= 3.09 V
    PIN10 (ILIM)= 0.99 V PIN10 (ILIM)= 0.99 V
    PIN11 (BATDRV)= 2.96 V PIN11 (BATDRV)= 1.07 V
    PIN12 (SRN)= 2.94 V PIN12 (SRN)= 1.05 V
    PIN13 (SRP)= 2.94 V PIN13 (SRP)= 1.05 V
    PIN14 (GND)= GND PIN14 (GND)= GND
    PIN15 (LODRV)= 0.00 V PIN15 (LODRV)= 0.00 V
    PIN16 (REGN)= 6.03 V PIN16 (REGN)= 6.03 V
    PIN17 (BTST)= 5.87 V PIN17 (BTST)= 5.87 V
    PIN18 (HIDRV)= 2.94 V PIN18 (HIDRV)= 1.05 V
    PIN19 (PHASE)= 2.94 V PIN19 (PHASE)= 1.05 V
    PIN20 (VCC)= 19.16 V PIN20 (VCC)= 19.16 V

    I removed the high and low mosfets to test them outside the circuit and they seem ok. analyzing the board with the thermal camera there are no hot spots, in fact even with the bench power supply the absorption with the board in standby (s5) is 7 mA.
    BQ gone??
    thanks in advance to anyone who answers me
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14216
    • Canada

    #2
    PIN3 (CMSRC)= 19.74 V
    CMSRC is between the 2 x DCin mosfets in the main power path. You should not have a voltage here when using only the battery. Confirm this measurement again.

    If you do, review the DCin mosfets for leakage.

    Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

    Measure:

    source / drain
    source / gate
    gate / drain


    Post each measurement. Test both DCin mosfets. Suspecting that at least the 2nd one is defective.

    Update - you have both, adapter & battery attached. Continue to test the mosfets as above.

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    • zaurus81
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2021
      • 67
      • Italy

      #3
      Originally posted by mon2

      CMSRC is between the 2 x DCin mosfets in the main power path. You should not have a voltage here when using only the battery. Confirm this measurement again.

      If you do, review the DCin mosfets for leakage.

      Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

      Measure:

      source / drain
      source / gate
      gate / drain


      Post each measurement. Test both DCin mosfets. Suspecting that at least the 2nd one is defective.

      Update - you have both, adapter & battery attached. Continue to test the mosfets as above.
      hi mon2, sorry I expressed myself badly in a hurry, the values with the battery inserted were measured with the charging jack inserted, that's why I have 19.77 v

      DCin mosfets are PQ1015 PQ1003 PQ1002?? see boardview - https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...75ambad0-rev-d

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 14216
        • Canada

        #4
        Yes, I agree with your findings.

        My search was as follows:

        (boardview file only)

        Searched for REGN -> found the charger IC -> found the ACDRV pin -> found the ACDRV series resistor -> other side of this resistor mates to the DCin mosfet gate pin # 4.

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        • zaurus81
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2021
          • 67
          • Italy

          #5
          Originally posted by mon2
          Yes, I agree with your findings.

          My search was as follows:

          (boardview file only)

          Searched for REGN -> found the charger IC -> found the ACDRV pin -> found the ACDRV series resistor -> other side of this resistor mates to the DCin mosfet gate pin # 4.
          DCin mosfets tested:

          first mosfet (PQ1003)
          source / drain 2.6M OHM
          source / gate OL
          gate / drain OL

          second mosfet (PQ1002)
          source / drain 4.3 M OHM
          source / gate 3,4 M OHM
          gate / drain 6,3 M OHM
          ​

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14216
            • Canada

            #6
            Mosfets look ok to me. Suggest to test with another known good battery. Amazon?

            The low voltage with battery on SRN / SRP are of concern. These pins should reflect the battery charge voltage. That is, the high side and low side mosfets linked to the battery connector pins should be switching to dial up the ideal charge voltage to charge the pack. That is, unless the battery is locked.

            You can also test the nearby mosfets used by the battery in the same was as above to confirm they are not leaking.

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            • mcplslg123
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jun 2015
              • 7262
              • india

              #7
              SRN/SRP voltage perhaps indicate a dead battery.

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              • zaurus81
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2021
                • 67
                • Italy

                #8
                Originally posted by mon2
                Mosfets look ok to me. Suggest to test with another known good battery. Amazon?

                The low voltage with battery on SRN / SRP are of concern. These pins should reflect the battery charge voltage. That is, the high side and low side mosfets linked to the battery connector pins should be switching to dial up the ideal charge voltage to charge the pack. That is, unless the battery is locked.

                You can also test the nearby mosfets used by the battery in the same was as above to confirm they are not leaking.
                good morning(evening) mon2, so from what you're telling me you're ruling out the presence of a damaged bq chip??
                ​

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                • zaurus81
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 67
                  • Italy

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mcplslg123
                  SRN/SRP voltage perhaps indicate a dead battery.
                  hi mcplslg123, SRP/SRN without battery is 2.94V. is this normal due to no battery? or is the bq chip not switching the 2 mosfets?

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                  • Sametbey
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 229
                    • Turkey

                    #10
                    maybe it can help you.
                    Attached Files
                    I'm not happy to be so strong. because it's not humanly

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                    • Sephir0th
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2020
                      • 1282
                      • Germany

                      #11
                      Bad battery need to be ruled out.
                      FairRepair on YouTube

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                      • zaurus81
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 67
                        • Italy

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sametbey
                        maybe it can help you.
                        thank you

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                        • maniche
                          Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 37
                          • Kabylie

                          #13
                          2,96 without battery look normal for me, but I don'tt see the voltage of battery, which mean the battery is dry, try to charge it with a power powersuplay ,if battery is to low the laptop will not charge it

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