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  • selfrepairing
    Member
    • Aug 2019
    • 18
    • serbia

    #1

    Remote control board problem

    Hello,

    I have this remote for around 10 years. worked fine. few days ago some buttons stopped working. well, buttons are fine because when i try to use same buttons on other positions on board they are working - after disassembling i tried buttons over the board.

    i do not have any experience fixing remotes (like I have for other things, hah) and i will probably get replacement for it, but i am trying to tighten time out especially because of this epidemic situation.

    i tested board in diode mode and buttons are working, they show some ohm values, like all other buttons, but ir signal is not sent and on remote have nice feature - led light turning on after every press of buttons. these buttons do not trigger light nor ir signal.
    also I noticed some kind of scratch on board but do not know does it have anything with a problem.

    anyone have idea what to do?


    thanks
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    Last edited by selfrepairing; 03-25-2020, 12:37 AM. Reason: problems with attachments
  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8038
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Remote control board problem

    looks like a broken / damaged trace to me.

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    • clearchris
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 687
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Remote control board problem

      It could be a broken trace, it's hard to tell from the picture. With remotes, I'll usually lightly clean the contacts with a pencil eraser. That will usually get them working again. If it is a broken trace, cleaning it shouldn't make it any worse. If it is a broken trace you might get away with soldering in a very small gauge wire from two traces (follow the trace down and to the right). Looks light a straight shot (up and down) between the S10 and S11 markings that shouldn't interfere with the buttons.

      Edit: I'm not actually sure there should be a trace there, I think there might just be a gap there, both of those traces may come from above.
      Last edited by clearchris; 03-26-2020, 09:33 AM.

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      • Harvey
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2007
        • 264

        #4
        Re: Remote control board problem

        Is that a crack on the trace just to the left of the S15 text?

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        • ngth82
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jul 2015
          • 541
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Remote control board problem

          Can you take another picture of the remote without a flash? Maybe move to a window and snap a new pic.

          I don't think that is a broken trace. Remotes are setup as a grid and share common lines between buttons.

          I second the contact cleaning - use isopropyl on the PCB and on the rubber section (bottom side of the rubber the button).
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          -Thomas
          I'm a hardware engineer focused on networking equipment for my day job. I void warranties and fix consumer electronics for fun.

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          • selfrepairing
            Member
            • Aug 2019
            • 18
            • serbia

            #6
            Re: Remote control board problem

            Hello all, thanks on a kind replies and on yours time.

            Very hard to take a photo of this board. Lots of reflection. I cleaned already board with alcohol 96% and there wasnt lot of dirt or humidity on it. As I said, i used not working buttons on a working pcb contacts and all is working, but when I use working buttons on nonworking pcb contacts these contacts do not work.

            in a diode mode I checked s1 to s8 (not working) and, pardon me i am amateur and novice, i presume all are connected with negative trace and all is OK.

            also, in a same mode I traced, presuming positive, trace and for all pins from S1 to S8 trace goes to chip (or whatever it is, hhah) to pins 22 to 15, as on picture. I do not know is this important, just got new multimeter with beep feature, and I got beep for all except for 2 of this pins but I got measured values, for example s4 no beep.

            so, maybe at the end, problem can be with failure of chip? I will try to clean contacts with rubber aka eraser but I cant find box with good ones.

            Here are photos, hope some are readable.
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            • Dumah Brazorf
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 179
              • Italy

              #7
              Re: Remote control board problem

              Follow the traces from a non working button to che chip and try to short them.
              BTW you can probably find the exact remote new on aliexp for few bucks...
              Last edited by Dumah Brazorf; 03-27-2020, 06:21 AM.

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