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  • bluto
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2007
    • 557

    #221
    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

    I would look over the power supply board carefully as well. I fixed one of these for my parents several years back. The one large filter cap on the power board was bulging. It caused two diodes to burn up and also burnt out one of the windings on the mains transformer. There was no fuse to protect against this situation and the burning silicon smell in the house with no apparent source really freaked my mom out. Replace that cap or leave the unit unplugged when not in use.

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    • keeney123
      Lauren
      • Sep 2014
      • 2536
      • United States

      #222
      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

      Originally posted by budm
      Thanks for catching that. I made an correction, hard to make 100% correct when I do not have the board in front of me.
      You're welcome. It is very easy to make a mistake even if the board was in front on a person. That is why it is important for each of us to look over things. Usually when I make a mistake it is so obvious a monkey could caught it, but I get so sure that I am blind to it, so I just tell the person who caughts me I just screwed up. BudM, thanks for the information that you provide it sure helps me to understand things.

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      • Crrose
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 165
        • Usa

        #223
        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

        Mistakes? How about soldering the cap wires to the rectifier leg by mistake and giving you false meter reading expecting help, or checking things in diode mode when they should have been done in Ohm setting confusing everyone? I am glad you have all hung in to continue to help me and not just throw your hands up and move onto another forum question.

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        • SteveNielsen
          Retired Tech
          • Jun 2012
          • 2327
          • USA

          #224
          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

          If you are willing to stick to finding a problem there's always people here willing to help. If you stop making mistakes maybe you've stopped learning

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #225
            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

            BTW, you should check and see what pin 2 (input pin) of the MOSFET driver IC TC1410 goes to.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Crrose
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 165
              • Usa

              #226
              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

              As far as I can see pin 2 is connected to pin 3 and the orange 3 prong capacitor?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #227
                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1421039122

                "As far as I can see pin 2 is connected to pin 3 and the orange 3 prong capacitor?" I think you look at the pins wrong, the dimple at the bottom left of the IC is pin 1 (make sure you put the new IC in correctly).
                I see pin 2 is connected to the SMD resistor with '285' printed on top, another end of the resistor is connected to pin 4 which is the Ground pin of the IC.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Crrose
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 165
                  • Usa

                  #228
                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                  Ok so the dimple is pin one, I was going off the data sheet that showed pin 1 diadonally on opposite corner by the way the numbers were on the chip, I see now a black dot I guess represents the dimple. Again another learning mistake by me.

                  Yea pin 2 goes to 562 chip and under C5 to R19

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                  • keeney123
                    Lauren
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2536
                    • United States

                    #229
                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                    Originally posted by Crrose
                    Ok so the dimple is pin one, I was going off the data sheet that showed pin 1 diadonally on opposite corner by the way the numbers were on the chip, I see now a black dot I guess represents the dimple. Again another learning mistake by me.

                    Yea pin 2 goes to 562 chip and under C5 to R19
                    That 562 chip is a resistor that is 5.6 KOhms that is a SMD( surface mount device), just for reference purposes.

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                    • Crrose
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 165
                      • Usa

                      #230
                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                      Thanks for the last info, nice to learn as much as possible. Can someone tell me what that one 3 leg mosfet is. Says Morocco ST 9540 427654 W33B20, when I call order no one says they can find it by those numbers. I can't find on Internet either.
                      Last edited by Crrose; 01-14-2015, 07:26 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #231
                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                        Can you take good pictures of the MOSFET?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Crrose
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 165
                          • Usa

                          #232
                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                          Here you go.
                          Attached Files

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                          • Crrose
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 165
                            • Usa

                            #233
                            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                            This is the 2 prong one next to it.
                            Attached Files

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #234
                              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                              Originally posted by Crrose
                              This is the 2 prong one next to it.
                              This one is a Diode.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #235
                                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                Well, I am glad I asked for picture because in post 230 you have the numbers as 'W33B20' that is why I could not find any info on it.
                                The actual numbers as printed on the body is W33N20, so it is 'STW33N20'

                                http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...pYC6krShfGCA==
                                Last edited by budm; 01-14-2015, 10:13 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • goontron
                                  5000!
                                  • Dec 2011
                                  • 4108
                                  • US

                                  #236
                                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                  datasheet anybody?
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                                  • Crrose
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2013
                                    • 165
                                    • Usa

                                    #237
                                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                    Sorry that was a typo, I had it correct in post #26 though, at least I got something right. Will try to order this somewhere.

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                                    • Crrose
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2013
                                      • 165
                                      • Usa

                                      #238
                                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                      Ordered parts now waiting for arival.

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #239
                                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                        Maybe worth reading up on Dim Bulb Tester might save blowing any new parts
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                        • Crrose
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Dec 2013
                                          • 165
                                          • Usa

                                          #240
                                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                          Still waiting for parts to arrive watching videos on how to remove and solder the small SMD.

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