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  • vagos_89
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 61
    • Greece

    #21
    Re: lg 2234s no power at all

    I tested the mosfet and is ok. I try a new one for sure but the problem remains.

    I dont have any voltage on the transformer in secondary in any pin consequently i dont have voltage to the output connector.
    In the primary of the transformer i have these DCV pin1 326V pin2(not connected) pin3 326V pin4 0V pin 5 0V.

    The dc voltage between two legs of c807 is 3,1V
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: lg 2234s no power at all

      "The dc voltage between two legs of c807 is 3,1V" That Voltage is way to low for the SMPS IC to run. You already test the rectifier diodes in the secondary side to make sure they are not bad.
      The SMPS may be in the shutdown mode, or bad startup/running cap, bad SMPS IC.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • vagos_89
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 61
        • Greece

        #23
        Re: lg 2234s no power at all

        Originally posted by budm
        "The dc voltage between two legs of c807 is 3,1V" That Voltage is way to low for the SMPS IC to run. You already test the rectifier diodes in the secondary side to make sure they are not bad.

        Yes i test the rectifiers in secondary and are good. Also i replace and c807 but nothing.

        The SMPS may be in the shutdown mode, or bad startup/running cap, bad SMPS IC.
        Sorry but what do you mean "SMPS IC"? You mean the IC802 LD7522 on the bottom of the board?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: lg 2234s no power at all

          SMPS: SWITCHED MODE POWER SUPPLY.
          "You mean the IC802 LD7522 on the bottom of the board?" Yes, please see the spec sheet attached so you can see the pin out and how it functions.
          Attached Files
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • vagos_89
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 61
            • Greece

            #25
            Re: lg 2234s no power at all

            Originally posted by budm
            SMPS: SWITCHED MODE POWER SUPPLY.
            "You mean the IC802 LD7522 on the bottom of the board?" Yes, please see the spec sheet attached so you can see the pin out and how it functions.
            Thanks, i've already found the datasheet. I have voltage only in pins 1 and 7(3.1V). in other pins except gnd i have few mvolts.
            i put some solder on each pin but nothing.
            Last edited by vagos_89; 07-08-2015, 10:28 AM.

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            • Porto
              Senior Member
              • May 2015
              • 109
              • NL

              #26
              Re: lg 2234s no power at all

              According to the datasheet the Vcc has to be 15v nominal, and 30v max.
              Check all components between that pin and the rectified voltage on pin 1 of the rectifier, as Budm says, especially the caps. Not only measure the capacity but also the ESR if you are able to.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: lg 2234s no power at all

                Originally posted by vagos_89
                Thanks, i've already found the datasheet. I have voltage only in pins 1 and 7(3.1V). in other pins except gnd i have few mvolts.
                i put some solder on each pin but nothing.
                There has to be DCV on pin 1 otherwise the SMPS will be in shut down due to BNO (brown out detection). You can have bad SMPS IC. You should also check the resistance between the VCC pin and Ground pin to see if it is really low and not allow the VCC to rise up to 16V (typ.) to run.
                see the spec sheet again.
                BNO
                Brownout Protection Pin. Connected a resistor divider from this pin to bulk
                capacitor voltage to set the brownout level and line compensation. When the
                voltage of this pin is lower than threshold voltage, the PWM output will be off.

                Brownout Turn-Off Trip Level min 1.05, typ. 1.10, Max 1.15 V.
                Like I said, check or replace the startup cap and the rectifier in the secondary side or just buy a new board and save time troubleshooting.
                You also do not have the main board connected while testing the output Voltage as I requested?
                Last edited by budm; 07-08-2015, 11:56 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • vagos_89
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 61
                  • Greece

                  #28
                  Re: lg 2234s no power at all

                  I tested the resistors and are all ok. I replaced the caps on primary(not smd) except the 150μF/450V because i didn't find the same, the rectifiers on the secondary and also the electrolytics there and i have the same measurements. i tested the optocoupler too.

                  If i have bad SMPS IC, the voltage on vcc not supposed to be right but to be bad the output voltage? If i understood correctly this voltage comes from optocoupler?

                  No i didnt had the mainboard connected when i measure. Nothing.
                  Already this board i bought fron ebay and comes to me faulty.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: lg 2234s no power at all

                    If you look at the spec sheet of the SMPS IC, you will see that the VCC for running the CI is generated by the AUX winding of the transformer once the circuit is running, when power is first applied to the board pin 7 (VCC) gets the start up through the resistor.
                    Again: Please see the spec sheet of the IC as I suggested.
                    As I also indicated, the pin 1 BNO cannot be at 0V.
                    At this point you will be off getting good working board.
                    Last edited by budm; 07-09-2015, 10:52 AM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                    Comment

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