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  • yves67
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 16
    • France

    #1

    X93W lcd problem

    Hello,
    I am trying to repair an Hyundia LCD : X93W
    When I turn on this screen, the picture is correct for two minutes, then a few blink and the picture disappear.
    But with a closed light, I can see the picture
    it is a problem with the backlight
    I have ordered the capa kit on the lcdalternatives site, changed them but the problem is still there, I was quite sure about these capas ???
    The only one, I have not changed, it is this one (100uF/450v) near the power supply, it was not in the kit
    I am not an electronicien, and I don't know what to do next
    I couldn't not find any information on this screen ?
    I put the photos of the platine
    If anybody has an idea, I will appreciate a lot

    Thanks
    Yves67
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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: X93W lcd problem

    Hi - what is the part number on the Inverter Transformers (black rectangular components with yellow stripe on side.)
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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    • yves67
      Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 16
      • France

      #3
      Re: X93W lcd problem

      thanks for your message
      on these two transformers I can read :

      SPW-099 Rohs
      DARFON 2080N 811087_A

      Thanks again
      yves67

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: X93W lcd problem

        Ok - Power OFF set your meter on ohms2000 and on the end with two pins
        check the resistance on each transformer and post the results
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        • yves67
          Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 16
          • France

          #5
          Re: X93W lcd problem

          On the side of the connection to the CCLF, pins 7 and 8
          I found 484 ohms on one transfo and 473 on the other one
          On the other side, pins 1 to 6, found zero between any pins ??

          hope this help

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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: X93W lcd problem

            They look to be ok - we look for them to be within 3% of each other.
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            • selldoor
              Slow Learner
              • Dec 2010
              • 7870

              #7
              Re: X93W lcd problem

              Can you get a better picture of the bottom of the board and a picture of the top and bottom of the other (main) board
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              • yves67
                Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 16
                • France

                #8
                Re: X93W lcd problem

                Hello
                Here are the pictures

                The part number of the other board is : 791261300600R

                I hope these pictures are good enough

                Thaks for your help

                Yves67
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                • yves67
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 16
                  • France

                  #9
                  Re: X93W lcd problem

                  I put another picture with 3000 pixels
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                  • yves67
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 16
                    • France

                    #10
                    Re: X93W lcd problem

                    Another one, a little bit better
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                    • selldoor
                      Slow Learner
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7870

                      #11
                      Re: X93W lcd problem

                      Do you have another monitor that you could try the ccfl bulbs in?

                      Do you have any spare ccfl bulbs or an old monitor or laptop even with a cracked screen?
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                      • yves67
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 16
                        • France

                        #12
                        Re: X93W lcd problem

                        I have one other lcd, which is working
                        but I don't have any spare ccfl bulbs
                        do you think it is the ccfl bulbs ?
                        at the start time, the four cclf bulbs are on and the picture is good
                        after two minutes, all the four cclf are off

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                        • selldoor
                          Slow Learner
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7870

                          #13
                          Re: X93W lcd problem

                          It could be the bulbs or the wiring.

                          Turn down the brightness on the monitor and see if it stays on longer.

                          If you type ILPI-068 into the "search" facility in the bar above you will see a few threads which might help. They use the same power board.
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                          • yves67
                            Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 16
                            • France

                            #14
                            Re: X93W lcd problem

                            I have found on Ebay Canada the board ILPI-008
                            It is not expensive and I have ordered it
                            will see with the new board
                            I have read the posts about ILPI-068 but there is no solution...
                            I will post the result as soon as I got the new board
                            Thanks a lot

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                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #15
                              Re: X93W lcd problem

                              Originally posted by yves67
                              I have found on Ebay Canada the board ILPI-008
                              It is not expensive and I have ordered it
                              will see with the new board
                              I have read the posts about ILPI-068 but there is no solution...
                              I will post the result as soon as I got the new board
                              Thanks a lot

                              I hope that is a spelling mistake otherwise you may have the wrong board?
                              Perhaps you should have tested the bulbs/wiring first
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: X93W lcd problem

                                Yes, it can be bad wiring on the lamp assemblies:
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...klight%20lamp/

                                Test lamps:
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...g%20old%20CFL/
                                Last edited by budm; 12-11-2012, 10:14 AM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • yves67
                                  Member
                                  • Dec 2012
                                  • 16
                                  • France

                                  #17
                                  Re: X93W lcd problem

                                  yes it is a spelling mistake, I have oredered it using the part number

                                  BTW I have found another hyndia LCD which is working and I will use it to test the lamps

                                  I will keep you inform


                                  thanks

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                                  • yves67
                                    Member
                                    • Dec 2012
                                    • 16
                                    • France

                                    #18
                                    Re: X93W lcd problem

                                    Hello
                                    I made some progress, I opened the other Hyndia LCD and connect the lamps to the other one, and it is working....
                                    that means that the problem is in the lamps
                                    may I connect one lamp from one screen and the other to the other one ?
                                    are the lamps independant ?
                                    Thanks

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                                    • selldoor
                                      Slow Learner
                                      • Dec 2010
                                      • 7870

                                      #19
                                      Re: X93W lcd problem

                                      Not absolutely sure what you mean.

                                      You can disconnect one lamp at a time and connect one from the other machine, to try and find which is faulty.
                                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #20
                                        Re: X93W lcd problem

                                        or you can set up the second machine and test one lamp at time from the z93w
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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