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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #21
    Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

    Originally posted by Spork Schivago

    One last thing, I have never successfully soldered an SMD component. From my understanding, I'm supposed to put resin on the contact I'm soldering the SMD component too. Then I'm supposed to put a little bit of solder on the iron instead of putting the iron to the component and the board. Is this correct? And does anyone have any good advice that could help me with replacing SMD components including desoldering and soldering them? Thanks for all the help guys!
    Pleased the burnout wasnt as bad as you thought. Have we decided what value the fuse is before it is destroyed - does it have a letter on it N K ??

    Re SMD Soldering there are a number of videos on youtube

    Desoldering
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XyrNjNXSo8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcvX8VXtos
    Soldering
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWeAOemTY_E

    They make it look easy _ practice is the answer.
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #22
      Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

      Originally posted by Spork Schivago
      One last thing, I have never successfully soldered an SMD component.
      Neither have I. There are videos like this one

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY

      You can, however, and I have seen people here do it just install a picofuse on top of the existing fuse. Since the SMD fuse is open installing one "over top" is fine.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/180599519251
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      • retiredcaps
        Badcaps Legend
        • Apr 2010
        • 9271

        #23
        Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

        Originally posted by budm
        You are basically jumping the open fuse with the Meter (set to DC AMP mode, the Red probe on the meter will also have to plugged inot the AMP probe inlet if the meter has separate V/Ohm and AMP input, the meter will show how much current the T-CON board is flowing, or you can use 1 Ohm instead of using the AMp meter.
        Multimeter tutorial (less than 5 minutes). It covers how to measure amps.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3OyQ3HwfU
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        • Spork Schivago
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 4734
          • United States of America

          #24
          Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

          Okay. That makes sense. I did have the probe plugged into the 20A input. I know where to put the red probe, right after the fuse, right? Where should I put the black (common) probe? On a ground some where or close to where the red probe goes? Here's two pictures of my multimeter. It's an old Craftsman 82357 but it still works fine.
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          Last edited by Spork Schivago; 03-05-2012, 04:27 PM. Reason: typo graphical error correction
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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

            Red probe on one end of the fuse, black probe on another end of the fuse, DO NOT LET THE PROBE TOUCH THE CHASSIS, or you will blow the fuse for current measurement section of the meter. You will have to at the screen while doing this to see if you will get the image on the screen. See what the current reading is also on the meter, make sure to put it into DC AMP mode.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Spork Schivago
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 4734
              • United States of America

              #26
              Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

              Originally posted by retiredcaps
              Multimeter tutorial (less than 5 minutes). It covers how to measure amps.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3OyQ3HwfU
              Wow, that was cool. I knew about all the other functions, however, the AMP stuff I didn't know about. I have been using it to test batteries but nothing else. I tried unsuccessfully to measure it. I set it to 20A, put the common before the fuse and the red probe after the fuse. Turned on the monitor while it was hooked to a PC and couldn't get a measurement at all.

              Is it possible that I damaged something from shorting it out last night to the point where the T-CON board isn't getting what it needs? I measure the voltage coming into the logic board and it all seems to check out. 5V is 5V, VCC is 5V, etc.

              Sorry for posting questions about how to do this after you write a message like the one with the link. I start writing my question before you write the message and by the time I ask it, it seems you have sent me something that answers my question.
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              • Spork Schivago
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 4734
                • United States of America

                #27
                Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                Okay, so I measured those voltage regulators to see if they where getting anything. I don't think they're the problem. The measurements are for the first pin (closest to VGA port) 3.3vdc, the middle pin 1.8vdc and the last pin was really low, 1.x m. The second voltage regulator (the big one), the first pin registered 5.24vdc, the middle one 3.3vdc and the last one was like the third pin on the first regulator. Is this right?
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                  OK, the T-CON is getting 5vdc feeding it, and we bypass the fuse using an AMP meter, and the meter did not show anything, I expect at least 1/2A. At this point youihave dead T-CON board with blown fuse, so what ever shorted out and took out the fuse with it, it is no longer work. Not worth getting new LCD panel, unless any one els here has better suggestion. You backlights are fine, its job is to provide light source and that is, nothing else.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Spork Schivago
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 4734
                    • United States of America

                    #29
                    Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                    Damn, that sucks. Was really hoping I could fix this. No chance that the capacitor I was talking about has anything to do with this, huh?

                    I might of made a mistake here. I just noticed that it's going into stand by as soon as I turn it on. I'm going to try reboot the PC I have it hooked up to. Maybe that'll fix it. I'll let you know what I find out.
                    Last edited by Spork Schivago; 03-05-2012, 05:21 PM.
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                    • Spork Schivago
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 4734
                      • United States of America

                      #30
                      Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                      So rebooting fixed that problem. It has to be something with the logic board. There's test points before the ribbon cable that goes to the T-CON board and all of those test points are reading 0vdc.
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                      • Spork Schivago
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 4734
                        • United States of America

                        #31
                        Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                        Never mind that previous post, I had the DMM on the 20A. I had the probes in the V spot so I didn't do any damage. Most of the points are reading some where between 1.5 volts.
                        Last edited by Spork Schivago; 03-05-2012, 05:42 PM.
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                        • Spork Schivago
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4734
                          • United States of America

                          #32
                          Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                          I have to be doing something wrong here. When the monitor is on, the fuse registers 0 resistance and -5vdc. When it's off, it shows OL.
                          Last edited by Spork Schivago; 03-05-2012, 05:40 PM.
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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                            It is because the Ohm meter circuits of the meter is being fed with the 5vdc form the logic board cause the meter to show some number on the meter, I would not do that for too long, it may damage the input circuits of the meter. The board has blown fuse, something caused it to blow.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Spork Schivago
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 4734
                              • United States of America

                              #34
                              Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                              Okay, I have some broken LCD screens from old laptops I fixed. I'm going to take the fuse off of one of them and try it. The board is made by the same manufacturer but it is a smaller screen. Worse case is it'd blow I guess. Wish me luck.
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                              • Spork Schivago
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 4734
                                • United States of America

                                #35
                                Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                I replaced the fuse. Like we thought, there was still no picture. I did get a reading with the DMM set to Amps. Nothing for the 20A setting but on mA's, I get 330mA give or take a few.
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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                  This 5Vdc may be feeding another regulator on the T-CON board, from your picture, I can see U1 3.3V Regulator, there may be more on the board. So check and see if you do have 3.3v at the output pin (center pin) of U1.
                                  Another possibility is that, what ever shorted out may have blown itself open circuits.
                                  Attached Files
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • Spork Schivago
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 4734
                                    • United States of America

                                    #37
                                    Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    This 5Vdc may be feeding another regulator on the T-CON board, from your picture, I can see U1 3.3V Regulator, there may be more on the board. So check and see if you do have 3.3v at the output pin (center pin) of U1.
                                    Another possibility is that, what ever shorted out may have blown itself open circuits.
                                    In your picture, the one labeled 3.3VDC Output is reading .25VDC (25mVDC), the middle pin on the other side is reading the same, .25VDC (25mVDC). The one pin that says 5VDC Input is reading 0. Because there's no input but there's a small reading on the other pins, is it because of the surrounding circuitry feeding back into the regulator?
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                                    • Spork Schivago
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 4734
                                      • United States of America

                                      #38
                                      Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                      The reason I'm getting nothing on the regulator is because the fuse blew again. On the logic board there's test points below the connector. I measured them and they range any where between .77VDC and 1.5VDC. I can't find a pin-out for the Genesis chip but I don't think the voltages are correct. I'm gonna start checking the components on the logic board I guess. If I can track it down the problem, it should prevent the fuse from blowing. If anyone can give me a good starting point, I'd appreciate it.
                                      Last edited by Spork Schivago; 03-06-2012, 04:48 PM. Reason: Added content
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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                        The 5VDC is from switched transistor on the Logic board where you plug in the DVI/VGA cable into, so right now you read real low voltage on either side of the fuse?
                                        If that is the case, the switched transistor may be damaged.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: HP 2007W LCD Monitor

                                          Please look at the PDF attached on the reply #8 to see if you have voltage or not.
                                          "Logic bd redlined BM.pdf "
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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