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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #1

    LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

    Here we go again, i seem to have something with 19" screens. Picked this one up for $38 (for anyone that has not read my older threads, the economy here is quite different from, um, everywhere else, cheapest 19" is currently $123 in stores, i can sell this one for at least double what i paid for it). I was quite sure it's yet another case of Samxon GF.

    I noticed that the frame had snapped out at the bottom. I was almost certain someone's been in there, but the other sides of the frame (apart from one cracked corner) showed no signs of intervention. So i bought it.

    As soon as i got it home and took the frame out, the button board cable was dangling out. I was like "oh crap". But as i flipped the frame around and took the button board out, i saw that the connector was still intact. I opened up the power supply and took a good look around, nothing wrong. Samxon GF indeed but all good.

    So i hooked up the button board and plugged it in. Nothing. I push the power button. Tada! Green light and "Check Signal Cable" comes up. Lucky for me, someone had turned it off before the little frame accident. It just couldn't be turned back on!

    Pics coming tomorrow when i get it wired up, the seller had a PC to sell today so he needed the VGA cable, but he asked me to drop by tomorrow and he'll give me that as well.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
  • smason
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    • Feb 2010
    • 1652
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

    Cool.
    I'd recap it anyway.
    36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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    • Th3_uN1Qu3
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      #3
      Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

      Originally posted by smason
      I'd recap it anyway.
      Same thoughts here, i probably will.
      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
      A working TV? How boring!

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      • mockingbird
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

        Those PSUs on the LGs are a thing of beauty, no? (And they run very cool too!)

        Replace the GFs. Replace also the primary. They will all fail eventually.

        You mentioned that you like "dim" screens. I use an LG L1710S and it's pleasantly dim, why not keep this one for yourself then?

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        • Th3_uN1Qu3
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          Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

          Originally posted by mockingbird
          You mentioned that you like "dim" screens. I use an LG L1710S and it's pleasantly dim, why not keep this one for yourself then?
          Well, this one's quite wonky. First of all, when it's plugged in it displays a nice Flatron logo... but the menus are identical to Samsung ones. Second, it has NO backlight dimming whatsoever. Both brightness and contrast controls drive the panel. Same goes for the "lightview" thing, it only adjusts the colors on the panel. The inverter transformers on this thing are tiny, maybe that's why it doesn't support dimming. I don't think it's faulty, it just doesn't dim. I just googled it and people report the same.

          Oh yeah and it has a couple CapXons too... One of them is precisely in the position where i've seen failed Samxon GF before. And it's good.

          And my 19" Nokia CRT goes dimmer than even i will ever need, plus it has more pixels than a 19" LCD.
          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
          A working TV? How boring!

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          • mockingbird
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            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

            Was the PSU an LG or was it contracted? (If it's LG you see an LG logo silkscreened on the PCB).

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            • Th3_uN1Qu3
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              #7
              Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

              Well i just put it back together. I'll take a look in a couple days. The brightness is tolerable with the lightview set to "night text", but it's way, way too blue in this mode. And it really really really really really looks like a Samsung.
              Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 02-16-2011, 02:25 PM.
              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
              A working TV? How boring!

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              • Scenic
                o.O
                • Sep 2007
                • 2642
                • Germany

                #8
                Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                my L1952HQ is unbearable unless i turn the "Flatron Engine" crap off..
                if it's on, it automatically adjusts brightness, contrast and color depending on what's displayed... PITA to look at..
                plus you can't set stuff manually as long as it's on -.-!

                Kinda interesting thing is that the menu and especially the "no signal" message kinda have a Windows XP style to them..

                the no-signal screen looks like a miniature version of the welcome screen of XP

                edit: PSU in mine is a LIEN CHANG (?) (*click*)

                and this is what i mean by the XP style no signal message box:
                Last edited by Scenic; 02-16-2011, 02:45 PM.

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                • kaboom
                  "Oh, Grouchy!"
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2507
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                  So bad, it announces itself...

                  Resolder the inverter transformers, lamp coupling caps, all those jumpers, and the two DIP FETs.


                  On a 17" HP, I resoldered the whole board. This sat in my closet for a few years, and worked for a few hours after I took it out. Then intermittent brightness pulsation, sometimes the top backlight was a different color/brightness from the bottom. After 20 minutes, it got so bad, it would only work for 10 seconds with each power cycle. Not the caps. This unit had jumpers for *everything,* and all over the inverter, cracks in the lame excuse for solder. When the tuning caps across the primaries of the inverter tx's started to lose connection, the inverter PWM must've sensed the excessive voltage. It would've eventually ate the inverter transistors, a-la EFP172.

                  Did it work after resoldering? You bet.

                  Hey Unique, the crap is on with Crap-Xon
                  -Paul
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                  Last edited by kaboom; 02-16-2011, 11:06 PM.
                  "pokemon go... to hell!"

                  EOL it...
                  Originally posted by shango066
                  All style and no substance.
                  Originally posted by smashstuff30
                  guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                  guilty of being cheap-made!

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                  • Scenic
                    o.O
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2642
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                    the caps in mine were all Samxon GF.. none of them bad, but i replaced them anyways.
                    also resoldered all the critical parts.. (as i always do)
                    friend of mine bought it when his 19" CRT died.. still working fine almost a year later

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                    • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 6031
                      • Romania

                      #11
                      Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                      @ kaboom: Is that really a HP PSU? Coz it sure looks like the one i have in my LG. Complete with similar markings on the transformer, dozens of jumpers and all.

                      @ Scenic: I have a similar check cable screen on mine. I've also seen this type of menu and info screen on Samsungs. I guess it's the same HongKongFlyApart company - (c) Toasty - who makes them.
                      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                      A working TV? How boring!

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                      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                        #12
                        Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                        It's leaving tomorrow for just a little under double what i paid. Next i'll try to pick up something else not a 19" all over again.
                        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                        A working TV? How boring!

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                        • kaboom
                          "Oh, Grouchy!"
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2507
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                          That *is* your LG. I just put a red box around 'PB Free Solder.'
                          "pokemon go... to hell!"

                          EOL it...
                          Originally posted by shango066
                          All style and no substance.
                          Originally posted by smashstuff30
                          guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                          guilty of being cheap-made!

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                          • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                            #14
                            Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                            Just read the above posts again - it's Scenic's LG. I didn't remember posting pics of mine - and indeed i did not.
                            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                            A working TV? How boring!

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                            • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                              #15
                              Re: LG Flatron L1950S - advertised as broken but...

                              Well, after messing around with it for a little it turns out that it does actually have an useful control - the "white balance" one. Display full white screen, select that option, and it auto calibrates brightness and contrast to fit. Does a decent job at it.

                              It isn't all that bothersome with the contrast set to zero. And set this way it actually adheres to the RGB standard of 2.2 gamma. But whoever designed it really was a dumbass as black level totally sucks with no backlight control. The brightness control doesn't do anything for like 75% of the range... and then once you go below 35 it starts eating the dark shades and turning them into (backlit) black.

                              It doesn't set new records for suck, but it's not too far from it.
                              Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 02-18-2011, 03:59 PM.
                              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                              A working TV? How boring!

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