AC Fan motor speed control ideas

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  • TechGeek
    Computer Geek
    • Jan 2015
    • 2254
    • USA

    #21
    Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

    Can you reverse the fan blade?
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    • Dannyx
      CertifiedAxhole
      • Aug 2016
      • 3912
      • Romania

      #22
      Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

      Originally posted by TechGeek
      Can you reverse the fan blade?
      No. Most likely the blade is going to have only one shaft insert on one side, unless I get really lucky and the hole indeed goes from one side to the other, which I've rarely seen.
      Wattevah...

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      • sam_sam_sam
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2011
        • 6037
        • USA

        #23
        Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

        I do not know if this will work or not but give it a try

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        • redwire
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2010
          • 3906
          • Canada

          #24
          Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

          If it's a shaded-pole motor, you can flip the stator or the rotor, to reverse direction: https://woodgears.ca/reader/walters/reverse_motor.html

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          • Dannyx
            CertifiedAxhole
            • Aug 2016
            • 3912
            • Romania

            #25
            Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

            Originally posted by redwire
            If it's a shaded-pole motor, you can flip the stator or the rotor, to reverse direction: https://woodgears.ca/reader/walters/reverse_motor.html
            No, it's most likely similar to the one shown in post #16, hence why I think all I have to do is flip the rotor around. A shaded pole motor would be too big to fit in a fan like this.
            Wattevah...

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            • redwire
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2010
              • 3906
              • Canada

              #26
              Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

              How about a picture of the motor?

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              • Dannyx
                CertifiedAxhole
                • Aug 2016
                • 3912
                • Romania

                #27
                Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

                Originally posted by redwire
                How about a picture of the motor?
                I don't have one of my exact fan, but when I pulled out its impeller because it seemed a bit wobbly and I tried balancing it a bit better, I had a look behind it and I can confirm it looks just like the one in post #16.
                Wattevah...

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                • kaboom
                  "Oh, Grouchy!"
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2507
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: AC Fan motor speed control ideas

                  Originally posted by Dannyx
                  I don't have one of my exact fan, but when I pulled out its impeller because it seemed a bit wobbly and I tried balancing it a bit better, I had a look behind it and I can confirm it looks just like the one in post #16.
                  Okay, then remove the two screws holding the bearing retainers and reassemble with the stator flipped.
                  The leads will exit opposite their usual place, check for mechanical interference.

                  It's most certainly a shaded pole motor.
                  When you have it apart, you'll see the heavy copper shunt bars, which is what makes them self-starting without multiple windings & a run cap or centrifugal switch.
                  Woodgears just shows a larger, C-frame one (that powers a gearbox).

                  Incidentally, those shading shunts are what limit these motors to some awful efficiency, something on the order of 30 percent.
                  They then exist, after the motor's at speed, as shorted turns!
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