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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30952
    • Albion

    #21
    Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

    Originally posted by EasyGoing1
    I'm not sure how any of this information is relevant to my original question, which was... how do I design a circuit such that when a voltage hitting the base of a transistor is at 5V, the transistor is off, but when that voltage goes to 4 volts or lower, I need the transistor to be on as hard as it can be?
    you need a schmitt-trigger like a 74hc14, not a transistor.

    but that's not going to help because your reciever output is already digital - you need a better and more sensitive one.

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    • EasyGoing1
      Shock Therapist
      • Sep 2016
      • 977
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

      Originally posted by stj
      you need a schmitt-trigger like a 74hc14, not a transistor.

      but that's not going to help because your receiver output is already digital - you need a better and more sensitive one.
      I'm not convinced that it won't help, because when a weak signal reaches the receiver, it sends a higher voltage to the Arduino ... and as I stated when I started this post ... if that pin gets between 2.2 and 2.5 volts, it will waffle the interrupt trigger, so if I can set 4 volts as an absolute that will guarantee sinking that pin to ground, then I will have completely overridden the effects that a weak signal has on this ir sensor and I will have given the Arduino a solid 0 even if the IR receiver gets a weak signal ... (because a strong signal causes the IR receiver to go to about 1 volt while a weak signal can make it only drop to 2-ish volts) ... so then with this idea, all that signal needs to do is drop that voltage by only 1 volt and I'm in business ... make sense?
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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

        You still refuse to give us the spec of the IR receiver you are using and also the waveform, simple request.
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        • redwire
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2010
          • 3900
          • Canada

          #24
          Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

          We don't know how OP is measuring the pulse voltages. With a multimeter it's averaged and doesn't tell you much.
          OP is also thinking a weak signal means less signal swing which is not the case with modules because they have built-in amplifiers, AGC, clamps and a comparator to give the same output signal weak or strong IR signal.

          A photo-transistor will give a weak or strong signal though, so this seems part of the confusion or maybe even what OP is using for a receiver. We will never know.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

            Originally posted by redwire
            We don't know how OP is measuring the pulse voltages. With a multimeter it's averaged and doesn't tell you much.
            OP is also thinking a weak signal means less signal swing which is not the case with modules because they have built-in amplifiers, AGC, clamps and a comparator to give the same output signal weak or strong IR signal.

            A photo-transistor will give a weak or strong signal though, so this seems part of the confusion or maybe even what OP is using for a receiver. We will never know.
            Yep, we will never know. OP asks questions but refuse to provide the info + lack of basic understanding of the electronics and devices.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • truclacicr
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2019
              • 293
              • australia

              #26
              Re: Need to design an IR Receive amplification circuit for digital processing

              Use a single supply, rail to rail comparator, eg MAX941.

              https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...acaf490fe5.pdf

              Use a resistive potential divider for the 4V set point (see figure 6 on page 9).

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