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  • 6BW6
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 55
    • UK

    #1

    New soldering station required.

    I'm looking for a new soldering station, general usage, repairs, through hole and SMD components.

    Now I'm looking at Weller stations, rather than buy one of their earlier models I started looking at the WD 1012 series, has anyone any thoughts on these?

    I was nearly caught out buying a Atten ST station, from RS components - they are NOT temperature controlled!!!! There is only three wires in the soldering pen handle, ground and a power feed to the element, they do have one draw back the tip cools when soldering and anything but the temperature displayed.

    Imagine removing a components with solder wick braid and the tip cools down, and ideal situation for the copper track to tear and rip, I can guess the sensing is done via a current shunt resistor, certainly done on-board and not in the iron. I put this to RS and have confirmed my suspicions, they also confirmed Tenma was the same.

    I know Hakko is a good iron used by many, to be honest I don't like the design and it seems fiddly pressing this and that buttons and that it looks like something from Fisher Price toys, so do do, ideas anyone?

    Dave
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30908
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: New soldering station required.

    there are many threads on this,
    i always recommend some chinese Hakko clone with T12 tips.
    that's the important thing - T12 tips.

    here is a high-end one.
    http://www.circuitspecialists.eu/sol...older-station/

    and a cheap one.
    http://www.banggood.com/BAKON-950D-7...-p-982824.html

    and a set of tips
    http://www.banggood.com/T12-Series-S...-p-932701.html

    and something "interesting"
    http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum...hp?f=56&t=7218

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    • 6BW6
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 55
      • UK

      #3
      Re: New soldering station required.

      Thanks stj, I did visit some of those links you gave, I didn't scan the pages of badcaps regarding similar threads.

      You can't be too careful these day's when buying spares, I always prefer buying from the manufactures or their distributors.

      Since nearly getting a Atten soldering station and finding no real temperature control I want to be extra cautious..... I've got some fake rf driver transistors here supposed to be from a 'reputable company' that started in the West.... lol, they won't even fit in a Kenwood TS2000 - nothing like the original Mitsubishi's, I later learned the die the silicon is mounted on is only quarter the size.

      Dave

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30908
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: New soldering station required.

        the T12 clones are fine,
        and they are special, the heater & sensor are in the actual tip.
        so you just plug the tip into the handle.

        this makes them heat up very fast and keep hot even when you suddenly put them on a large part.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u588...ature=youtu.be

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        • 6BW6
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 55
          • UK

          #5
          Re: New soldering station required.

          Originally posted by stj
          ..... the heater & sensor are in the actual tip.
          so you just plug the tip into the handle.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u588...ature=youtu.be
          I thought the heater was separate. The video was pretty impressive, thanks for the link.

          Dave

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30908
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: New soldering station required.

            no. heater & sensor all combined into one.

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            • eccerr0r
              Solder Sloth
              • Nov 2012
              • 8658
              • USA

              #7
              Re: New soldering station required.

              Originally posted by stj
              I LOL when I saw the picture of the controller that has a label:

              "Imported Large Capacitance"

              pointing to the Chongx main filter capacitor...

              I guess it is still technically true...

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30908
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: New soldering station required.

                yes, but nice of them to show the guts - i wish sellers did that with more stuff!

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                • steviewonder
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 183
                  • england

                  #9
                  Re: New soldering station required.

                  I would certainly side with a Hakko- I bought the genuine japanese one,even the power supply is very well built,And got fed up with my semi-trustworthy weller ps3D, still good,but the tcp iron is a pain for failing thermostats,and elements,not cheap either.
                  The Hakko is much better by comparison,being variable temp,With the weller,Temp is set by the magnastat tip fitted...Not sure on the new Weller gear,But Hakko well worth considering!

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                  • EasyGoing1
                    Shock Therapist
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 977
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: New soldering station required.

                    Originally posted by stj
                    Stj,

                    That is actually VERY interesting ... any idea what the cost of the parts would be? Id love to build that project.

                    Mike
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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30908
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: New soldering station required.

                      pcb can be got from a russian guy on ebay.
                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/tto44ka/m.html

                      parts are not cheap - i have read on the forum it can be as much as 70Euro

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