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  • Dessied
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 10
    • Ireland

    #1

    Machine - reset pass code

    Hi All

    First post here, hope to get a steer on an electronic problem. A friend of mine runs a beauty salon on her own and purchased a machine a few years ago - square box around 30" x 12" x 5". Paid a lot of money for it which she didnt really have.

    About 2 months ago it suddenly prompted for a pass code. The firm has gone bust and there is no way of her getting a code or support. I'm from a software background, but said I'd take a look, only thing I could think of trying was seeing if there was a cmos battery, and removing it to see if it would reset.

    Opened the box and was amazed to find only one very simple circuit board! I can see a battery but it appears to be secured by a weld. Before I force it out, I'd appreciate if anyone thinks it's worth a shot. Can post photos if it helps.

    Sorry if this is the wrong forum, and really appreciate any feedback.
  • vinceroger69
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2012
    • 6714
    • uk

    #2
    Re: Machine - reset pass code

    pictures and any make and model details will help.

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    • Dessied
      Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 10
      • Ireland

      #3
      Re: Machine - reset pass code

      Sorry, you're correct lack of info in my first post .

      For make & model there's not much to go on - the machine is called "Microlift" and bar a serial number there's nothing else I can find. Tried Google etc of course but nothing.

      Attached a few photos:-

      1 - The message that displays which is "System Code 18 - Press any ket to continue". When you do it looks for a code.

      2 - The Microlift box

      3 & 4 - Two pics of the only circuit board. You can see the battery which is standing upright. I've no idea on the rest, but doesn't look to be much there.

      If I can send on anything else that may help please let me know. And thanks for the VERY quick response vinceroger69...
      Attached Files
      Last edited by Dessied; 05-19-2014, 02:31 PM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Machine - reset pass code

        Does she has any user manual? What does it do or what is it used for? It looks like facial treatment machine from around 2003.
        Last edited by budm; 05-19-2014, 03:18 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Dessied
          Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 10
          • Ireland

          #5
          Re: Machine - reset pass code

          I'll check re: manual but don't think so. It is a facial / body toner (whatever that means) and yes, looks like 2003 alright! Probably why I can't find anything to do with it on Google etc.

          She was using this fine up to a few months ago, but one day, switched it on and it started looking for.a code. Only thing I can think to try is to take out the battery and see? There's no jumpers etc. would be nice to help her out cos she spent a lot on it and hasn't had much in the way of luck recently...
          Last edited by Dessied; 05-19-2014, 05:06 PM.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Machine - reset pass code

            The design looks pretty old, I would guess late 90s. I'm not sure what it does, given there looks to be very little inside of it... There looks to be a socketed device which might be an EEPROM for settings and two microcontrollers, one for the display and one for everything else, I am guessing.
            Looks like it has two wires for electrodes, some kind of electro-therapy nonsense as we've seen before here?
            Last edited by tom66; 05-19-2014, 05:11 PM.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • goontron
              5000!
              • Dec 2011
              • 4108
              • US

              #7
              Re: Machine - reset pass code

              Originally posted by tom66
              The design looks pretty old, I would guess late 90s. I'm not sure what it does, given there looks to be very little inside of it... There looks to be a socketed device which might be an EEPROM for settings and two microcontrollers, one for the display and one for everything else, I am guessing.
              Looks like it has two wires for electrodes, some kind of electro-therapy nonsense as we've seen before here?
              http://www.triangelklinikken.no/Microlift_salg.html

              what does that text printed on the PCB in pic 4 say?
              Last edited by goontron; 05-19-2014, 05:16 PM.
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              Excuse me while i do something dangerous


              You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30952
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: Machine - reset pass code

                the battery is probably flat for a start.

                it looks like a glorified TENS unit btw.

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                • bluto
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 560

                  #9
                  Re: Machine - reset pass code

                  12345?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Machine - reset pass code

                    BTW, did you check the voltage on the battery? It is more than 10 years old so I will not be surprised if it is dead.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Dessied
                      Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 10
                      • Ireland

                      #11
                      Re: Machine - reset pass code

                      Originally posted by goontron
                      http://www.triangelklinikken.no/Microlift_salg.html

                      what does that text printed on the PCB in pic 4 say?
                      My God, how did you find that, it's the exact same machine!

                      I've uploaded a zoom of the PCB text. Thanks for the feedback.
                      Attached Files

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Machine - reset pass code

                        goontron, you're good!
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                        Comment

                        • Dessied
                          Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 10
                          • Ireland

                          #13
                          Re: Machine - reset pass code

                          Originally posted by stj
                          the battery is probably flat for a start.

                          it looks like a glorified TENS unit btw.
                          Probably, the image above showing the PCB text includes the battery close up - it appears to be welded to the two vertical metal flaps so will require a bit of force.

                          Originally posted by bluto
                          12345?
                          Tried this, alas no joy, thanks anyway would have been a quick fix

                          Originally posted by budm
                          BTW, did you check the voltage on the battery? It is more than 10 years old so I will not be surprised if it is dead.
                          Sorry, not sure how to, more of a software slant than hardware. IBut I guess you're right, chances are it's dead, unfortunately it's welded rather than a simple clip.

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          The design looks pretty old, I would guess late 90s. I'm not sure what it does, given there looks to be very little inside of it... There looks to be a socketed device which might be an EEPROM for settings and two microcontrollers, one for the display and one for everything else, I am guessing.
                          Looks like it has two wires for electrodes, some kind of electro-therapy nonsense as we've seen before here?
                          Yeah you're right in it is some electro-therapy thing. Check out the link from goontron - that's the exact same machine.

                          Thanks everyone, much appreciated. Guess my last question now is should I yank the battery and try a new one as doesn't appear any other option?

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                          • Dessied
                            Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 10
                            • Ireland

                            #14
                            Re: Machine - reset pass code

                            Originally posted by budm
                            goontron, you're good!
                            I'll echo that!

                            Looking at the website, the before and after pics don;t show much of a difference....

                            I'm putting the lot through bablefish now to see if I can find anything
                            Last edited by Dessied; 05-20-2014, 02:16 PM.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Machine - reset pass code

                              Since they are still in business and they even have E-mail address:
                              Tlf: 22 25 09 00
                              btria@broadpark.no
                              I would check the batteries for sure.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • Dessied
                                Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 10
                                • Ireland

                                #16
                                Re: Machine - reset pass code

                                Originally posted by budm
                                Since they are still in business and they even have E-mail address:
                                Tlf: 22 25 09 00
                                btria@broadpark.no
                                I would check the batteries for sure.
                                Agreed budm, just dropped them a very broken english mail looking for a code, if I don;t hear back I'll try the battery option. Sure I'll let ye know how I get on out of interest

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                                • goontron
                                  5000!
                                  • Dec 2011
                                  • 4108
                                  • US

                                  #17
                                  Re: Machine - reset pass code

                                  well, from what i can find they are gone. i found a link to here
                                  http://www.ioxfordshire.co.uk/profil...rnational-Ltd/

                                  then when its put into google maps its shows up as Arrow Autocare, a garage.

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  goontron, you're good!
                                  i cant fix a TV for anything but tell me to look for something on the web and i will find what others cant!

                                  maybe this is them?
                                  http://bdmitech.com/location.aspx
                                  Last edited by goontron; 05-20-2014, 04:38 PM.
                                  Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                                  "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                                  Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                                  You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                                  Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                                  Follow the white rabbit.

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                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30952
                                    • Albion

                                    #18
                                    Re: Machine - reset pass code

                                    Originally posted by Dessied
                                    the image above showing the PCB text includes the battery close up - it appears to be welded to the two vertical metal flaps so will require a bit of force.
                                    NO!

                                    that's a pcb mounted battery - the tabs are part of it.
                                    you replace the whole thing with another - or a socket.

                                    you need to get the part number etc from the battery so we know if it's a disposable lithium, or a lithium-thionyl rechargable.

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                                    • Dessied
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2014
                                      • 10
                                      • Ireland

                                      #19
                                      Re: Machine - reset pass code

                                      Goontron, thanks again, you should be a private detective.

                                      Stj - phew had the pliers in place when I read your post. I'll dismantle it tomorrow an see can I get the part # or a replacement.

                                      This is becoming a bit of a mission now!

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