new American made incandescent bulbs

[goontron]

About fucking time! http://www.newcandescent.com/store/customer/

[Kiriakos GR]

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Do you have any proofs that this is not another story of fake labeling ?

The best proof is to actually visit the factory and take pictures from it

[goontron]

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how about the packaging

[jamesbo]

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Do you see how some of the bulbs flare out just above the base. That is more common on foreign made bulbs. Most of these bulbs are Rough Service bulbs, which are considered specialty bulbs, their color is not the same as soft white bulbs in household use. Most of the bases are brass, which is also more characteristic of imported bulbs.

[goontron]

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^actualy thats common of 130v bulbs which is what these are, i came acrost an old stoplight that had American made bulbs thar look just like that.

[redwire]

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All the "import" bulbs I find have one support for a V-shaped filament, which is crappy. The website's pics are all the same but show the old three supports on a C-shaped filament. But I agree the lamps look like imports. Perhaps they are "assembled in USA" meaning they get put in the box there, and I don't see the flag anywhere on the site...

[jamesbo]

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The 130V traffic light bulbs were rough service bulbs and would have the triple support. And since they are special purpose, specific application bulbs, they still can still be manufactured and sold in the US.

[goontron]

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^ well that works for me...

and heres a pic of the 100w

[kc8adu]

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look like traffic signal bulbs to me.
note the getter on the leads.
10k hour rating means they will be a bit less efficient.

[goontron]

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getter on the lea... oh!
hadn't noticed, shame on me for noticing something used in my favorite equipment- valve audio systems

as for the efficiency, who cares? if you want efficiency get LED's.

[redwire]

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Hey that lamp looks like good mfg... if you're into light bulbs
Here is a pic of a made in China lamp; Globe 10,000hr 100W 130V, with the cheap V-shaped filament. Only about 50W of light, fairly dim like a traffic light. I can't find any 3-point fil. support lamps anywhere in my city.

I find incandescents have good lifetime, work at cold/hot temperatures and best for the environment when it comes to disposal but worse for CO2 and heat. In winter time they contribute to heating my house
I find CFL's have lousy lifetime, and are dim at cold temperatures below 0C and worse for the environment when it comes to disposal.
I find LED's are expensive, with questionable lifetime for the hot running electronics. In a few years they will be king.

[cheapie]

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I find CFL's have lousy lifetime, and are dim at cold temperatures below 0C and worse for the environment when it comes to disposal.

...but since CFLs are cheaper anyway here, who cares?

$3 for a 4-pack of incandescents
$1 for a 4-pack of CFLs
$11 for 1 LED

[goontron]

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^ can you use CFL's in temps lower than 0F with good instant light output? NO, can you use the as a ballast? NO, can you use them to heat a reptile tank? NO can you dim them? only the special one and then you have to replace the dimmer!
BTW $5 for a pack of CFL's here.

[mariushm]

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Two chinese 75w light bulbs .. about 30 cents each





One Philips 75w lightbulb made in Poland (about 1$ each)





(click to zoom)

Notice the higher quality and the extra wires holding the longer filament. Better quality metal on the bottom etc.

CFL lights are about 3-5$ for the better quality ones, maybe 10$ for brand name like Philips... there are Chinese ones which are as cheap as 1$ but I wouldn't waste my money on them.

[ben7]

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To me, incandescent bulbs still are better in the long run.

CFLs produce dirty electricty, therefore they interfere with radios and IR remote controls occasionally. They give off UV light - some people have gotten sunburn from the CFL in their desklamp - the CFL stays too close to the person. Also, CFLs can't be used upside down, or in humid, cold, or hot environments. The CFL electronics contain a variety of chemicals and elements which make recycling harder. CFLs also tend to melt or catch fire at EOL, all by themselves!

Incandescent bulbs don't really produce high frequency noise, so they don't cause interference. They are also easy to recycle - only some metals, glass and cement! They don't catch fire at EOL either.

I still think that with all the environmental costs of getting all the chemicals and elements to make a cfl, both cfls and incandescent bulbs have about the same environmental impact! (Cfl might have more)

-Ben

[eccerr0r]

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Keep in mind the 130V lamps AKA "long life" really do produce less light than the 120V version -
something like 120V 60W is equivalent in brightness to 14W CFL, but is equivalent in heat generation as the 130V 60W.

I only prefer CFL due to reduced heat generation in my house. I have enough computers and other devices to generate thermal energy

[cheapie]

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^ can you use CFL's in temps lower than 0F with good instant light output? NO, can you use the as a ballast? NO, can you use them to heat a reptile tank? NO can you dim them? only the special one and then you have to replace the dimmer!
BTW $5 for a pack of CFL's here.

-No, but they only take a minute or so to warm up.
-Just use a big resistor or something.
-They make these devices called "heaters". You should try one sometime.
-Just get a bulb with the correct power to begin with.

[eccerr0r]

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I'm tempted to go buy one of those halogen incandescent bulbs, anyone tried them? What do you think of them? Good enough compared to a regular incandescent?

They don't quite give off as much heat though, so if you wanted a 100W heater, it's a bit lacking...

[mariushm]

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I have two 500w lamps above my workbench... link below just for the picture, mine look like that but I didn't pay that much for them:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palmer-Riley...d_sim_sbs_lp_6

They are great in the afternoons or at night, really light up the desk... but they are HOT and heat up the place. They're hanging about 2 meters (~ 6 feet) above the desk surface and in about 10-15 minutes I'm almost sweating from the heat they make.

[Kiriakos GR]

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I'm tempted to go buy one of those halogen incandescent bulbs, anyone tried them? What do you think of them? Good enough compared to a regular incandescent?

Those questions sound logical, but there is no easy answers.

It is easy for me as electrician to verify if my 42W bulb which performs as 60W it does use 42W of energy.
But no one can verify the performance in brightness and heat production with out specialized tools of some value which will deliver the needed accuracy.

I did replace the bulb in my WC with a PRC made 42W, 230V, 624 Lumen, Energy class C.
On the box it is printed .. A55 bulb, 30% savings, Dimmable.
Brand ADELEQ-LUMEN, and English and Greek letters on the box, but with out any printed contact information of any one ( importer , distributor, factory).
Retail price 2$ (1,5 EUR).

Honestly I do not believe that is equally bright with a true 60W, but the best way to test that is in open outdoor space.