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  • dantm
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 26

    #1

    Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

    Hello,

    I have a Viewsonic VP201 monitor which has been of great use over the last few years. I'm currently having two issues with it:

    (1) the DVI input is not working (it was working before but now it doesn't recognize any signal on it - checked the source and it works fine on another monitor). The VGA is working fine.

    (2) the color is a bit off and I have a blue-ish hue (as if some color, maybe red? is missing). It's almost like the color is cooler than normal and if I decrease the temperature of the monitor (say from 9000K to 6500K) it somewhat alleviates the problem.

    As far as the history on this:

    - monitor worked fine ~3-4 years ago (it was brand new back then);

    - in the last ~2 years it has developed an issue where if I was displaying a large range of color it was almost missing colors (i.e. an image displayed on it almost looked pixelated and if I was displaying 16.7M colors it's almost like only 65K colors were on screen); this did not bother me much as the monitor was still working great;

    - a few weeks ago (~2 months?) I got back home to find the monitor dead; it was not recognizing any input from DVI or VGA but the amber light would go on as if it was powering up;

    - I posted a message back then in this forum and I was encouraged to take it apart and post pictures of the caps/different boards/etc.;

    - as I was taking it apart I realized that it was no easy feat to get the parts disconnected/etc. but I was able to re-seat some of the edge-connected ribbon cables/connectors/etc.; this brought back the picture but with the symptoms mentioned above in (1) and (2) -- i.e. no DVI, works only through VGA, and the color has a blue-ish hue to it, respectively.


    Any thoughts on how I could proceed with this or what the issue might be? Many thanks to all of you for putting up with my verbosity ;-) and for all the help!
  • Toasty
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2007
    • 4171

    #2
    Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

    For anyone caring for background -

    Original postings:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6587
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=67135

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6660
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=67137

    Verbosity aside, staying in the original thread keeps everyone on track.

    Where are the pics?
    Did you find any bad caps?
    Any voltage readings of interest?
    Any visual signs of damage to boards?

    Toast
    veritas odium parit

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    • dantm
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 26

      #3
      Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

      There were no signs of damage to boards, nor any visual issues with caps. I am going to open the screen again and take the pictures and post them if those would be the logical next steps.

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      • Toasty
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2007
        • 4171

        #4
        Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

        Well, the pics and info on the caps will help determine if you should recap the board. If it's loaded with known bad caps, they may be what are causing the problems. Or, you could have issues with bad solder joints on the boards or chips. Other members here are more "in tune" with these monitors than I and will assist once you get some info for them. Do you own a digital meter to check voltages as may be requested?
        veritas odium parit

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        • dantm
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 26

          #5
          Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

          Yes, I have a DMM and could also do more advanced checking on this if required. We have a scope @ work and I have used it in the past (am a little rusty and of course for now have no idea what to check for ;-).

          Thanks!

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          • dantm
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 26

            #6
            Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

            Ok, so I finally got around to opening up the LCD and taking a few pictures.

            First of all, the issues:

            (1) no DVI input works on this;
            (2) colors missing/blue-ish hue to the color;

            Since I have two of these monitors (one of them works great), I have attached two pictures that illustrate issue (2) above.

            First, from the good monitor:


            Now, the bad - notice the missing colors in the transition areas (almost like we were in a 65K colors instead of 16.7M). Also the colors are a lot 'cooler':


            Finally, the guts of the LCD:

            PSU & motherboard(?):


            I noticed there were a few areas of discoloration on the cover of the PSU, initially I thought they were the smoking gun and they were blown caps but then I noticed that they were corresponding to areas where the 110V comes in (see below with cover above PSU):


            Also the inverter, two shots:



            Any advice on what to do next/how to proceed?

            Thanks!

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            • PlainBill
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2009
              • 7034
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              #7
              Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

              I'd swap the logic card between good and bad monitors and see if the color problem follows the logic card. It's virtually certain the DVI problem will. The next step would be to locate the data sheets for the ICs (especially the chip receiving the DVI input and verify the power supply voltage(s) are correct.

              Alternativelly, check the caps with an ESR meter. Note that this board produces the voltages it needs on-board. The power supply produces only +18 VDC. Odds are one section of one of the ICs has died, but it's worth checking out the power supplies.

              Alternatively, pick up a dead VP201 on eBay.

              PlainBill
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              • EGuevarae
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                • Nov 2008
                • 1336
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                #8
                Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                Originally posted by PlainBill
                Alternatively, pick up a dead VP201 on eBay.

                PlainBill
                Try to get it without the base/stand - it is as heavy as hell and shipping will end up around $40 with it. You don't have to get it as you have it already. Just an idea ....
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                • dantm
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26

                  #9
                  Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                  Thanks guys, however the question is - how do I know the 'dead' monitor will have a good mainboard or whatever is wrong with mine? :-). I might have a chance of ending up with two 'dead' monitors!

                  Thanks!

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                  • PlainBill
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7034
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                    #10
                    Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                    Originally posted by dantm
                    Thanks guys, however the question is - how do I know the 'dead' monitor will have a good mainboard or whatever is wrong with mine? :-). I might have a chance of ending up with two 'dead' monitors!

                    Thanks!
                    Look for one with a broken screen?

                    PlainBill
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                    • dantm
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26

                      #11
                      Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                      :-) Ok, will do.

                      Tonight I'm going to try to swap out the boards between the two screens as per your instructions.

                      Thanks!

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                      • lucky13
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 412

                        #12
                        Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                        I see a lot of brownish stuff on those green PCB surface. You should get something to wash that off.

                        Also, I suggest you "reseat" the cable that connects at the LCD panel under the yellow tape.

                        Good luck.

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                        • kc8adu
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                          #13
                          Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                          Originally posted by lucky13
                          I see a lot of brownish stuff on those green PCB surface. You should get something to wash that off.

                          Also, I suggest you "reseat" the cable that connects at the LCD panel under the yellow tape.

                          Good luck.
                          good point.
                          sometimes the brown stuff is flux.
                          other times it is leaked juice from those surface mount lytics.which causes all sorts of issues.including traces eaten away under the caps.

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                          • dantm
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                            Interesting; I have purchased a dead Viewsonic monitor to see if I can swap out the motherboards, and in the meantime I took out the old motherboard, flipped it over and this is what I found:



                            It looks oxidized in quite a few places including on one of the components that looks like a transistor (G-D-S - gate, drain, source?). This is at the top-center, slightly to the right of center of the image. Anyway, what do you guys think?

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                            • EGuevarae
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                              #15
                              Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                              Originally posted by dantm
                              Interesting; I have purchased a dead Viewsonic monitor to see if I can swap out the motherboards, and in the meantime I took out the old motherboard, flipped it over and this is what I found:



                              It looks oxidized in quite a few places including on one of the components that looks like a transistor (G-D-S - gate, drain, source?). This is at the top-center, slightly to the right of center of the image. Anyway, what do you guys think?
                              Clean it. Maybe the brownish stuff is shorting or otherwise causing a failure. I've seen this on old CRTs.
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                              • dantm
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                                • Mar 2009
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                                #16
                                Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                                So I've cleaned the oxidation off using Flux cleaner and strangely enough the color issue went away. This is on the old motherboard (I'm still waiting for the dead monitor so I can swap out boards).

                                The DVI connection still doesn't work, and I noticed what looks like oxidation underneath the DVI connector pins - where they solder to the motherboard. I tried cleaning that from the sides since I can't take that connector off (for now) and no go.

                                Will keep you guys posted.

                                Thanks for all the help so far!

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                                • kc8adu
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                                  i bet the smn lytics are leaking.
                                  unsolder them and see if they sizzle and stink.

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                                  • dantm
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                                    • Mar 2009
                                    • 26

                                    #18
                                    Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                                    Originally posted by kc8adu
                                    i bet the smn lytics are leaking.
                                    unsolder them and see if they sizzle and stink.
                                    Hi,

                                    Can you please advise which ones those would be? Are there alternate part replacements available?

                                    Thanks!

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                                    • EGuevarae
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                                      Originally posted by dantm
                                      So I've cleaned the oxidation off using Flux cleaner and strangely enough the color issue went away. This is on the old motherboard (I'm still waiting for the dead monitor so I can swap out boards).

                                      The DVI connection still doesn't work, and I noticed what looks like oxidation underneath the DVI connector pins - where they solder to the motherboard. I tried cleaning that from the sides since I can't take that connector off (for now) and no go.

                                      Will keep you guys posted.

                                      Thanks for all the help so far!
                                      That's a good thing. even if you don't repair the DVI issue, you now have a working unit (in analog VGA only, but working). Good for you. By the way, can you give the item # of the ebay item you bought? I was trying to get one too and maybe it is the same unit.....
                                      I need at least one good screen for a 201 and a 211b units.
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                                      • dantm
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Viewsonic monitor - debug strategy and help

                                        Hi, the item number was: 230343529282

                                        I think it says broken screen so I don't know if that will help you.

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