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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30919
    • Albion

    #1

    more m$ bs.

    As of October, Microsoft's switching older editions to the update model pioneered by Windows 10
    http://www.computerworld.com/article...windows-7.html

    so your probably fucked - get ready for that auto-update that breaks your o.s.!
  • Topcat
    The Boss Stooge
    • Oct 2003
    • 16955
    • United States

    #2
    Re: more m$ bs.

    I didn't think anyone patched MS OS's anymore. They've been untrustworthy since the win 8/8.1 days...
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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
      • U.S.A!

      #3
      Re: more m$ bs.

      +1000
      m$ cant be trusted.
      being behind a router,skipping flash and java,and a bit of common sense keeps me safe.
      Originally posted by Topcat
      I didn't think anyone patched MS OS's anymore. They've been untrustworthy since the win 8/8.1 days...

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      • TechGeek
        Computer Geek
        • Jan 2015
        • 2254
        • USA

        #4
        Re: more m$ bs.

        auto-updating now? how 'bout anything 'nix that doesn't force updates?
        Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

        My computer doubles as a space heater.

        Permanently Retired Systems:
        RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
        Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


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        - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
        - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
        - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
        - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 30919
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: more m$ bs.

          nothing NIX forces updates.

          infact NIX cant update even if you want it to without you entering your root password.

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          • ron350
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2014
            • 296
            • USA

            #6
            Re: more m$ bs.

            Does this mean that windows 7, 8 and 8.1 will be forced to update to windows 10?

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30919
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: more m$ bs.

              no, it means they will force the spyware on you, and slow it down / destabilise it until you get so pissed off that you swap it for Linux or Win10

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              • ron350
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2014
                • 296
                • USA

                #8
                Re: more m$ bs.

                OK thanks STJ.

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: more m$ bs.

                  Originally posted by stj
                  no, it means they will force the spyware on you, and slow it down / destabilise it until you get so pissed off that you swap it for Linux or Win10
                  I didn't get the idea that it will be forced automatic... Just rolled up lump-sum mass updates. Idea being that instead of having 2^n (n= number of individual updates) different upgrade combinations to have to support, it's just the number of rollups issued. I'm sure the first one will be mandatory if you want support, but after that I wouldn't be surprised to see a number of rollups supported at once.

                  Not having individual choices does suck (especially with the more useless/quasi-spyware updates) but from a maintenace/support perspective it makes sense. Would you them rather drop all windows 7/8.1 support? Yeah they've "guaranteed" support until 2020 (for 7 at least, IDK on 8.1) but support on paper isn't support in practice.
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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30919
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: more m$ bs.

                    Originally posted by ratdude747
                    (especially with the more useless/quasi-spyware updates)
                    nothing "quasi" about something that turns your microphone on and livestreams it back to base!

                    and lets not forget that bit where you plug-in a webcam and it grabs a frame and sends it home!

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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: more m$ bs.

                      Originally posted by stj
                      nothing "quasi" about something that turns your microphone on and livestreams it back to base!

                      and lets not forget that bit where you plug-in a webcam and it grabs a frame and sends it home!
                      If it was doing that, you'd be right. In reality that's not actually what was happening:

                      http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...metry-secrets/

                      (I'd quote it but the page format isn't well suited to such).

                      Does it send stuff that many find objectionable? Yeah. Can it be turned down to a safe level? Yes it can. Hence why I think "quasi" applies since it's not truly "spying" since one can shut it off within the program and that it's documented. Still a potential security risk for highly-secure systems though...
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                      • stj
                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 30919
                        • Albion

                        #12
                        Re: more m$ bs.

                        cortanna has no recognition code in it - if it did then it would be huge and slow your cpu right down.
                        all audio processing and word seperation and recognition is done by remote servers.
                        ( cloud spy's! )

                        and after the latest update - you cant turn it off completely.

                        but hey, not singling out M$, the Android / Apple FaceBook APP does exactly the same thing!!!

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                        • shovenose
                          Send Doge Memes
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 6575
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: more m$ bs.

                          omg y'all are super paranoid. just use your damn computer!

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                          • kaboom
                            "Oh, Grouchy!"
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2507
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: more m$ bs.

                            Originally posted by shovenose
                            omg y'all are super paranoid. just use your damn computer!

                            Which would be like leaving that truck of yours unlocked and full of expen$ive stuff in one of those "psychotic" parts of town. The "anti-individualist" progressives (towards commie-nizzim) wouldn't be the worst of it...


                            Exactly which part of your computer is lost on M$?!? Oh that's right- you are the product, which was shamelessly ripped off from that fiorina bitch. That creature is so disgusting, I almost forgot its name...
                            "pokemon go... to hell!"

                            EOL it...
                            Originally posted by shango066
                            All style and no substance.
                            Originally posted by smashstuff30
                            guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                            guilty of being cheap-made!

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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30919
                              • Albion

                              #15
                              Re: more m$ bs.

                              Originally posted by shovenose
                              omg y'all are super paranoid. just use your damn computer!
                              it's not paranoid if it's true.

                              btw, i do just use my computer - just not with the devil's o.s. or bogus aplications on it!
                              and as my net machine is a 32bit athlon, it pre-dates the ARM based spyware in the newer chipsets.
                              something that cant be blocked by any o.s.

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 30919
                                • Albion

                                #16
                                Re: more m$ bs.

                                Originally posted by kaboom
                                Exactly which part of your computer is lost on M$?!? Oh that's right- you are the product, which was shamelessly ripped off from that fiorina bitch. That creature is so disgusting, I almost forgot its name...
                                that reminds me, i think i will buy another bit of HP kit from when it was a top-line company - maybe another scope.

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                                • kaboom
                                  "Oh, Grouchy!"
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 2507
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: more m$ bs.

                                  Originally posted by stj
                                  that reminds me, i think i will buy another bit of HP kit from when it was a top-line company - maybe another scope.
                                  Just be "agilent," lest ya miss any that appear for the time being...

                                  "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                  EOL it...
                                  Originally posted by shango066
                                  All style and no substance.
                                  Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                  guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                  guilty of being cheap-made!

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                                  • Khron
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Sep 2006
                                    • 1350
                                    • Finland

                                    #18
                                    Re: more m$ bs.

                                    One must not lose "(key)sight" of the important things, indeed
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                                    • TechGeek
                                      Computer Geek
                                      • Jan 2015
                                      • 2254
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: more m$ bs.

                                      I'm scoping some jokes around here.
                                      Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                                      My computer doubles as a space heater.

                                      Permanently Retired Systems:
                                      RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                                      Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                                      Kooky and Kool Systems
                                      - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                                      - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                                      - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                                      - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

                                      sigpic

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                                      • yuhong
                                        Member
                                        • May 2016
                                        • 42
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: more m$ bs.

                                        Originally posted by stj
                                        cortanna has no recognition code in it - if it did then it would be huge and slow your cpu right down.
                                        all audio processing and word seperation and recognition is done by remote servers.
                                        ( cloud spy's! )

                                        and after the latest update - you cant turn it off completely.
                                        I think the important parts still can be disabled.

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