Your opinion of Apple

[c_hegge]

Title says it all. What's your opinion on Apple products?

Personally, there isn't a word in the dictionary that could really say how much I hate them, and I think that their products are all completely overpriced junk.

For example: My HTC M8 has an SD card reader, it doesn't require that stupid, horrible piece of junk software called iTunes to interface it with a computer, the wireless hotspot feature actually works and doesn't turn off after 2 minutes, it's faster, and cost me a good $200 less than an iPhone. It's a similar story with my Galaxy Note 2014 tablet, but it adds further insult to the injury by also including a precision stylus (which no iPad or iPhone comes with). And don't even get me started on Mac and OSX...

The only thing I'll give them some credit for is that iPads do have better battery life than most 'droid tablets. It's still not worth paying the extra and forgoing everything else for, though.

[diif]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

I've used a lot of different tablets and the iPad is a very slick experience. Whilst MacBooks and the MacBook Pro are more expensive than similar specked Windows laptops, come resale time the Apples hold their price well.
iTunes has to be some of the crappest software i have ever encountered and i know some Apple users think the same.
Logic Pro seems to be industry standard, those i know into recording/creating music all use Apples. Not so with design.
Some people see them as a status thing, others see them as a tool to get a job done.
I do repair more iPhones than any other, so no complaints there.
Trying to network Apples is a bit of a joke/cross fingers and hope it works.
My daughter's iPod touch home button was broken. Quote from Apple was over £100.
The part was £5 and an hour of my time.
The security on iDevices is far better than Android.

[Topcat]

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I'm not an iphone guy. Tried one, hated it. However, the Mac and OSX does have its perks, uses, and has its place in the computer world....I'll just leave it at that.

[kc8adu]

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i fix apple stuff here but dont much use them.
not a fan of their overpriced pretty pc's nor their do everything our way approach.
for instance my friends time capsule died and in its place i attached a external hdd to her router.
time machine refuses to back up to it.stupid.

[Mad_Professor]

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Fuck crapple. Yes I said CRAPPLE!.

Try fixing one. You got about 2 dozen screws of varying sizes, thread pitch and lengths. You'll never remember where they went once you get to the board, unless you document them carefully, and uh, you should buy new not used parts, because it's not worth taking apart twice, usually the threads strip if used more than three times.

Mac OSX on the other hand has it's uses in the audio/video production, and basic stuff.

Overpriced junk.

[mockingbird]

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I remember first reading about Jobs in some computer magazine back in the day and immediately thought he was an eccentric fool. Then in the 90s they were the laughingstock of the computer industry.

Then they tried selling their junk to ignorant people, hiding their lack of power with translucent colorful shells. Then Diamond came out with the Rio, and then from out of nowhere, the iPod is suddenly the next great thing, eventhough it has no removeable battery.

Then they dump Motorola and go with Unix, negating the purpose of their existence to begin with.

What Apple should have done was bought out BeOS before Microsoft sued them into oblivion and then transitioned into a professional alternative to Microsoft.

Instead, their success has been largely driven by slave labour from China, and the collective ownership of people who live in the worlds largest superpower. I'm not saying Wozniak and Jobs didn't have their great moments in the 80s, but modern-day Apple is the product of an ignorant, uninformed society.

[stj]

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BeOS was forked into ZETA from Yellow-TAB software.
http://zeta.giga.de/

[brethin]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

I voted They are great based only on the fact I invested $2600 back on Aug 16 1985 when I was in the Navy and just finished Apple Repair Certification School to repair Navy Apple systems and have had never sold the 10,000 shares I own as of closing today they are worth $1,225,700. Long story short they were a shit computer company when I got in and are a shit toy's for the me me me generation now but I am very happy they are doing what they do.

[mockingbird]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

I voted They are great based only on the fact I invested $2600 back on Aug 16 1985 when I was in the Navy and just finished Apple Repair Certification School to repair Navy Apple systems and have had never sold the 10,000 shares I own as of closing today they are worth $1,225,700. Long story short they were a shit computer company when I got in and are a shit toy's for the me me me generation now but I am very happy they are doing what they do.

Speaking of which:

Apple investors see $69B vanish

[diif]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

Fuck crapple. Yes I said CRAPPLE!.

Try fixing one. You got about 2 dozen screws of varying sizes, thread pitch and lengths. You'll never remember where they went once you get to the board, unless you document them carefully, and uh, you should buy new not used parts, because it's not worth taking apart twice, usually the threads strip if used more than three times.

Mac OSX on the other hand has it's uses in the audio/video production, and basic stuff.

Overpriced junk.

i guess you are meaning iPhones. Get a set of screw holders, saves losing screws and cuts down the time it takes to take one apart. No remembering required.

[Mad_Professor]

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i guess you are meaning iPhones. Get a set of screw holders, saves losing screws and cuts down the time it takes to take one apart. No remembering required.

nope, mac books and all-in one computers.

[diif]

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nope, mac books and all-in one computers.

I've only done a couple of each, agreed different screw lengths and sizes are a pain on the Mac laptops. No issues with the Mac where you take the front glass off with suckers. i know the newer ones glue the screen in though.

[tom66]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

Apple make good products, and the software is well made and generally reliable. I'm not a fan of the Air Macbook with the single USB port, but I don't mind the other Macbooks and quite like the design of the Mac Pro (despite it looking like a waste paper basket...)

However, they are overpriced, and I am not a fan of the walled garden. Also, Apple appears extremely opposed to allowing modifications by the customer, both hardware and software. Compared to Windows (Desktop) and Android, which allow considerable modification and easy install of third party applications, it's the one major sticking point I have with Apple.

I don't hate on people who use Apple phones and devices, but they aren't for me.

[SteveNielsen]

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I've been a tech my whole life and I don't appreciate electronic devices that are purposefully made to be difficult to repair. Apple's stuff has consistently been a pain in the ass. Using them is fine but I don't use them. What I dislike the most about Apple are its stuck up idiotic users.

[Uranium-235]

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its just different I would call it. It has its advantages and disadvantages.

[Topcat]

Re: Your opinion of Apple

I voted They are great based only on the fact I invested $2600 back on Aug 16 1985 when I was in the Navy and just finished Apple Repair Certification School to repair Navy Apple systems and have had never sold the 10,000 shares I own as of closing today they are worth $1,225,700. Long story short they were a shit computer company when I got in and are a shit toy's for the me me me generation now but I am very happy they are doing what they do.

Capital gains is going to eat your lunch if you cash that out! Obama is already planning his next African Homeland vacation based on that!

[synaesthesia]

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Can't stand them. I don't like liars, and although that covers "marketing" generally, Apple have the best track record for outright bull going. "Macbook Air - the thinnest (nope) and lightest (nope) notebook in the world". I don't know how they get away with it.
The hardware is nothing to write home about; many of the Macbook models over the years have been poorly engineered in some ways; too often they are built to fit into a space to fit form over function rather than the other way around. This has meant lower lifespans in some models due to heat issues, electrical issues, battery issues (not just them at the time!); some things that could be excusable for budget products but certainly not for pro-premium products.
I like iPads; the usability is great, but I do dislike how often they're shoehorned into doing things they're not meant for. Shiny-shiny syndrome. Apple like to play on naivety. Personally as a tinkerer, it's android all the way here.

Any public body buying Macs can face my wrath; there are a few reasons where they can be useful (media as it's on par with industry standards in some but not all cases) but any school buying macs as their entire network base is clearly run by utter, utter idiots.

Many of my problems with them can be said of any manufacturer, but the lies and Steve Jobs being an immoral **** cap it all off for me.

[mockingbird]

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Capital gains is going to eat your lunch if you cash that out! Obama is already planning his next African Homeland vacation based on that!

I think he meant to say "had I have never sold them", which means to say he did sell them, and he isn't a millionaire. If he kept them, he would be rich, but not Topcat rich

[Hondaman]

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I don't EVER plan to stop using desktop computers. I'll buy a laptop, but only if I absolutely must. NO tablets or netbooks. I hope Apple will always have something for me.

My opinion of Apple went up recently as I tried using Windows 8 (not 8.1) in a hotel lobby computer. I will NEVER buy Windows 8. I'll use linux and older Windows machines for as long as I can.

I probably won't need to get another computer for a long time. But if Linux really didn't do what I needed, Apple would be a STRONG contender for my next purchase, even if it was "by default". (As long as it was a traditional tower/laptop -- not a netbook.)

(And yes, they probably are still overpriced. I can remember when the Apple Quadra was $6666. For a 68040 chip -- IIRC, that chip would give, say, 486-66 Mhz performance.)

[ratdude747]

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I think the Macbook Pro with retina display is a sexy bit of computer engineering (power to weight/size/thickness ratio at least). However, since the only serviceable (short of BGA rework) component is the farking SSD, one has to option it out when ordering... which means to get what I'd want (gold 15", max options) it would cost over 3 grand. No thanks. I can probably get something just as thin with a reasonably high res screen and an i7 for far less (since I don't have a need for Mac OS).

If they have anything right, it's ergonomics and aesthetics. Usability and durability not so much. Repairability, not at all. Different products for different markets.