Your opinion of Apple

[SteveNielsen]

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Macs are alright but not what I or my family want to use. OSX is a bit buried under the GUI but I suppose I could get used to it if I had to, like if I was stranded on a desert isle with internet access and a Mac running OSX. I'd manage with it somehow. So I voted in the middle. The only Mac I even thought about liking was a IIsi back in the day.

[diif]

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This in the news today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33311223

[ben7]

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I think they are ok-ish.

They are great for some, but for others, not so much.
A lot of proprietary features.
Expensive.
The laptops have poor cooling. (Compared to some PC laptops)
Hard to service.

I had an ipod but it had just gotten past the warranty period, and one day it wouldn't turn on. Tried charging it, but it didn't seem to want to charge. Plugging it in to a computer, the computer didn't recognize it at all. I guess it just decided to kill itself.

-Ben

[stj]

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a friend has a crapple laptop with milled aluminium case.
you can iron your trousers with it after a few min's!!

i liked apple when it had a 6502 in it, the ppc based ones in coloured cases like the blue G3 looked nice too.

the newer stuff is just overpriced fanboy products.

[dj_ricoh]

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i think there are a lot o ppl who don`t know how to change a hdd or a mem in a notebook.
install a os? NO! just simple ppl who like to click and wait to be install and work.

i saw a lot of ppl like this and they do one thing in a OFFICE.

that mac its design for those ppl who got better thing to do(so they think)

if i wanna do audio recording, photoshop, video editing and i don`t want any fuss i`ll go for a mac if that work brings me money.

if not i`ll stay with mitrosoft.

[Pentium4]

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I remember first reading about Jobs in some computer magazine back in the day and immediately thought he was an eccentric fool.

I like what most of the members here have already said.

Personally, the thing I hate most about apple is their "holier than thou" attitude. From the company, and their users. Calling their employees at the apple store "geniuses" you fuckin' kidding me? I wouldn't even call them technicians, they're just a bunch of tools.

I haven't bought an apple product since December, 2006 and that was an ipod. I really liked it until it was stolen by a heroin junky in June, 2011. Haven't owned one of their products since, and don't plan to.

I worked on quite a few of their all in ones. They're a huge pain to take apart, but apart from that, they seem to use quality components. (Every one that came in had a failed hard drive). What I didn't like however, was some of those PSUs didn't have bleed resistors on the hv cap. It'd usually hold ~180V in the main cap and give you a little zap if you weren't paying attention

[kaboom]

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Personally, the thing I hate most about apple is their "holier than thou" attitude. From the company, and their users.

What about the brainwashed sheep, who think all the "extras" that come with spiTunes is "just so wonderful," "there because they care," and "required for my music to work?" "No! Don't remove that, it might affect itunes!" You mean you actually want bonjour, conduit, 50 million toolbars and their "updaters?"

Be good now, don't run a hosts file, mmmkay...

Just the other day I backed up some supposedly wonderful itools music files... in godawful mp3 "format."

"Oh, it's always sounded like that!" How, like shit???

It was a 320GB HDD and they're fucking MP3's?! Ughhh... crapple has made "appreciating" lousy audio "trendy," "cool," and "fashionable."

Literally. It's a damn music player, not a style accessory."

Oh, wait- how stupid I was... their products are a "sign" that the user holds up to "announce" how they've fallen for the scam. And after you explain all this to apple cultists, they pretend to appreciate your info, but go right back to their delusions while rationalizing their "beliefs"- how the next iwhatever will somehow be better. It's better, alright, at making you spend money, fool!

An $800 spiWatch? Piss on apple...


The "users" can't even be trusted with their own data- that's not by accident.

[shovenose]

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So... I work at a computer store and sometimes people will ask me if Mac vs PC is better. I usually try to steer them towards a Windows machine unless they are upgrading from an older Mac in which case I explain to them why I prefer PC (newer/faster hardware for less money, more software options) but then go on to say if they were happy with their previous Mac they may as well just get another.

What sucks is when another Apple-loving customer is nearby and interjects (it's none of their business, let me do my damn job) about how much better Apple is and how I just don't understand. Now, the customer I was dealing with, is really confused, and get into a three-way discussion to explain I am not an unenlightened retard, I just think that a Windows PC would work better for the customer for XYZ reason.

[ben7]

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What sucks is when another Apple-loving customer is nearby and interjects (it's none of their business, let me do my damn job) about how much better Apple is and how I just don't understand. Now, the customer I was dealing with, is really confused, and get into a three-way discussion to explain I am not an unenlightened retard, I just think that a Windows PC would work better for the customer for XYZ reason.

Oh my, that sends shivers down my spine ... that's the most annoying situation to be in. I understand they are trying to help (albeit biased), but, yeah...

-Ben

[shovenose]

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Oh my, that sends shivers down my spine ... that's the most annoying situation to be in. I understand they are trying to help (albeit biased), but, yeah...

-Ben

There is this one older guy. He's usually fairly nice, but at some point he's waiting on our Mac tech (lol) so he asks me out of the blue "Do you use a Mac or PC at home?"... Now, this should be a completely innocent question, right? "PC."
"Why?"
"I prefer Windows because it lets me customize it more and I build my own PC so I get the most hardware for my money, among other reasons."

Then he went on for about ten minutes how I just don't understand how much better Apple really is, clearly I am lacking intelligence (or something like that, I don't remember, but it was really stupid), and only Mac users really deserve the Apple experience. I kinda just went in the back at that point and started I laughing my ass off where we couldn't hear me.

[stj]

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agree a compromise and sell them a pc with BSD installed on it with KDE and the Cairo docker-bar - that will piss the OSX guy off!

[kaboom]

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So... I work at a computer store and sometimes people will ask me if Mac vs PC is better. I usually try to steer them towards a Windows machine unless they are upgrading from an older Mac in which case I explain to them why I prefer PC (newer/faster hardware for less money, more software options) but then go on to say if they were happy with their previous Mac they may as well just get another.

What sucks is when another Apple-loving customer is nearby and interjects (it's none of their business, let me do my damn job) about how much better Apple is and how I just don't understand. Now, the customer I was dealing with, is really confused, and get into a three-way discussion to explain I am not an unenlightened retard, I just think that a Windows PC would work better for the customer for XYZ reason.

I agree. It isn't just ignorance- you've seen the same behavior as any other "dedicated fanatic."

If you really want to confuse a "true believer," throw a chromebook into the mix. After all, if some trash is good, more must be better!

Every windows system that gets infected with itunes is a mark for apple. But that's not enough; their arrogance is painfully obvious in how they continue and perpetuate the scam- IOW the drive-by-install of "extras" like I said...

Ergo- "We got 'em with itunes, why stop there?"

I suspect part of the reason for the recent vinyl record "throwback" in recent years has been a sort of "anti-apple" backlash.

Jobs wasn't an eccentric fool as much as he was a control freak. He just happnened to discover how to use technology to get his way (with people). Or, the old phrase, "if you can't impress 'em with facts, baffle 'em with bullshit."

Don't think for a second that all the stockholm syndrome, itunes-payers are just happenstance. Telling people that their 99 cents "goes to the artist" to "induce" them into paying for noise disguised as audio, right there, is a form of control. Exactly how does 99 cents, if one "payolas up," go to Levi Stubbs for the download of "Standing in the Shadows of Love?"

It can't, and it doesn't. Even if Stubbs were still alive it wouldn't- apple keeps 90 percent of that 99 cents, going to lengths to assure artists lose their share.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/musician...ng-fair-share/



There really shouldn't be any surprise of how apple devices (software, stupidly designed/restrictive hardware, w/o expansion options) attempt to limit what the user can do. That's the controlling nature being brought to the forefront.

If it wasn't for "The Woz," apple never would've been. He was the real tech; Jobs was just a guy who sold junk at the pier.

Given a choice between crapple and vista, I'll pick vista. At least it can be pushed and "shoved" in such a way as to (mostly) obey its user.

[kaboom]

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There is this one older guy. He's usually fairly nice, but at some point he's waiting on our Mac tech (lol) so he asks me out of the blue "Do you use a Mac or PC at home?"... Now, this should be a completely innocent question, right? "PC." "Why?"

It's always a loaded question, when presented that way.

"I prefer Windows because it lets me customize it more and I build my own PC so I get the most hardware for my money, among other reasons."

You can always best an apple H/W config on a per-spec basis, pricewise. Not to mention your choice of PSU, MB, CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, rather than having it "dictated" to you.

Then he went on for about ten minutes how I just don't understand how much better Apple really is, clearly I am lacking intelligence (or something like that, I don't remember, but it was really stupid), and only Mac users really deserve the Apple experience.

Yes! They do! And how much of the "experience" do ya mean? Overpriced, proprietary hardware, lock-in to stupid "device" just for playing music, disposability-while-still-in-debt (iphone), no expansion ports+all of the above (ipad), etc.. How about all of it!

If these people actually gave a damn about wise spending vs system performance/value, they'd have never joined the cult in the first place...

I kinda just went in the back at that point and started I laughing my ass off where we couldn't hear me.

PC users can do everything Mac/Apple users can, except make smug, arrogant, conceited asses of themselves. But with apple fanatics, that comes naturally.

[stj]

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PC users can do everything Mac/Apple users can, except make smug, arrogant, conceited asses of themselves

i wouldnt say that, after tripping over a forum for win-10 users the other day!

[shovenose]

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Windows 10 is going to be great - I've been previewing it. Very excited for its release.

[stj]

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so is NSAMOSADMI5

[ratdude747]

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IDK on windows 10. I've been looking to try it but I don't have a setup that's a good candidate for dicking with (either hard to find drivers or a install with something special)... that's the only downsize to running such unique rigs (laptops included). Maybe my one C2D Sony Vaio perhaps...

(Sony is like apple only worse build quality... proprietary as hell! Damn you sony!)

[shovenose]

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Just run it in a VM. I prefer VMWare Workstation myself but I'm sure something free like VirtualBox would be ok for testing.

[c_hegge]

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Windows 10 is going to be great - I've been previewing it. Very excited for its release.

It looks like it will be an improvement over Windows 8, but from 7, it's a side-grade at best. Then again, I'll take any version of windows over a Mac (maybe with the exception of ME).

[ratdude747]

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Just run it in a VM. I prefer VMWare Workstation myself but I'm sure something free like VirtualBox would be ok for testing.

That's not a real test IMHO. A real test is a real install running on it's own.