I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

[pentium]

The other day I found an old computer that had one really nice 486 AT motherboard and two really interesting cards.

The first one was called a T19146-G and had an additional card attached to it called the T19550-G2


The second one was called the T19137-G and it too had a second board attached to it but I could not find a number on it.


Both had Cat 5 connections.


They were both connect to a motherboard that had no identification marks other than Q13086-42 and one of the cards said Gilbarco on it which leads me to this site but I can't find any mention of the boards. What on earth are these things?

[zandrax]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

I think they were part of a Gilbarco system, perhaps communication boards of some kind.
I've found some reference to G-Site systems for gas pumps administration, point of sales control and similar applications: http://www.benfordfueling.com/shop/page92.html

I suggest posting more detailed photos: the chip onboard seems to be Zilogs, but I can't see more.

Zandrax

[pentium]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

If you want to know, both baords are fitted sith six Zilog Z85's but in all honesty there are no actual markings on the boards that tell what the jumpers and connectors are for. Same goes with that motherboard.

[kc8adu]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

fuel pump interface for a p.o.s system.

[pentium]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

So all it can do is just pump gas?
Pity, they look like nice I/O cards.

[zandrax]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

If you want to know, both baords are fitted sith six Zilog Z85's but in all honesty there are no actual markings on the boards that tell what the jumpers and connectors are for. Same goes with that motherboard.

Zilog Z85xxx seems to be a serial controller family according to their datasheets, so you are out of luck - no multi nic solution , maybe a multi serial card.
Gilbarco doesn't seem friendly (in order to contact them, you have to agree to a no disclosure license!), but its techs surely know what these cards are and if you can use them [I doubt].

Zandrax

[PCBONEZ]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

I think you have an "G-Site ISA I/O Console Board" (and system?) there.
Basically interfaces 'the computers' in several gas pumps to cash registers at a G-Site (gas station).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gilbarco-Assy-T1...mZ280193629807
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gilbarco-Assy-T2...mZ360014584964

I found a "Q13086-48" PN listed as a P5 motherboard.
Also found a listing for a Pentium upgrade CPU for a 486 based Q13086.

T19550-G2 is aka a "Two wire strip board" [what ever that is...]

Rest is just links that might have clues that I can't see because I can't se what all you have there.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/GILBARCO-T19146-...mZ230213982304

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gilbarco-Assy-T1...mZ360015184466

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gilbarco-Micropr...mZ280181875018

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gilbarco-T19140-...mZ280180911754

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Gilbarco-T19...emZ28018156668

[pentium]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

How interesting.
So, we now know that they are just interface boards. This is one of them and this is the other one.

I also attached a quick photo of the motherboard.

[zandrax]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

The mobo is a mid 486 period Baby-AT one, late 1994 or first 1995: the chipset is an old good OPTi 82C499, there are two VLB slots and a flashable Ami Color bios (the flash was expensive at the time, the Ami bios the best at all) but the socket 3 isn't a zif one and it lacks clear jumper serigraps. The manifacturer skimped on cache size (128 KB) and quality (20 ns vs the more expensive 15 ns variety) too.
So, it was a motherboard sturdy but not intended to be expanded and not the best for performance: I think the computational load was quite low, but reliability was in first place. If I guess correctly, there was an Intel DX 33, because the DX2s were too expensive, Cyrix ones had a bug (later corrected) and Amd had a good reputation for clones used in cheap computers, but not as a first choice cpu.
If you need some 486 or isa spare parts, fell free to ask: I've a box full of them.

Zandrax

[PCBONEZ]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

These things are classed as "Industrial Equipment" and might be worth a pretty penny if you can find the right buyer.

Might be old 486 stuff to you but industrial equipment tends to be used for a long long time and once in a while it needs fixed.

I know of some older CNC mills that are still in service and they are using old 286/386 based motherboards in their computer.

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[pentium]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

I got loads of 486 gear so don't worry. Actually, one thing I own is a 100Mhz Overdrive chip.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

Sadly, gotten rid of pre-Pentium I stuff 7 years ago.

The oldest I have is an IBM Aptiva with a Pentium 133 Mhz and 48 MB of EDO DRAM. Originally 16 MB (8 MB x 2) SIMMs require pairs!

[kc8adu]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

These things are classed as "Industrial Equipment" and might be worth a pretty penny if you can find the right buyer.

Might be old 486 stuff to you but industrial equipment tends to be used for a long long time and once in a while it needs fixed.

I know of some older CNC mills that are still in service and they are using old 286/386 based motherboards in their computer.

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i service this sort of stuff in a 4 state area around me.
i hang on to this sort of stuff as it can be hard to find in a hurry.
creaky old junk to some but still in everyday use.
and when it breaks they want it fixed now!
i am often surrounded with this cnc stuff.
another hot item is p3/athlon xp boards with an isa slot for the motion control card .
allows upgrade for more powerful software.

[gdement]

Re: I found some cards but I really don't know what they do

Sadly, gotten rid of pre-Pentium I stuff 7 years ago.

The oldest I have is an IBM Aptiva with a Pentium 133 Mhz and 48 MB of EDO DRAM. Originally 16 MB (8 MB x 2) SIMMs require pairs!

To be more precise, Pentiums require SIMMs to be paired but the 486 does not. 72-pin SIMMs are 32-bits wide. The 486 has a 32-bit data bus, but the Pentium's data bus is 64-bit, thus the reason you generally have to pair the SIMMs. Some boards/chipsets can work around that though.