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  • davg
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    • Sep 2008
    • 536
    • Canada

    #1

    External Drive Enclosure

    I have a HP media bay drive enclosure with a 500g sata hard drive that just quit?? I get a message "the usb device not recognized?? I have connected my HD inside my computer and it works fine so the fault is with the enclosure?? I can connect a 30 gig laptop drive and it works fine. It sure sounds like a power supply problem any ideas what to look for?
  • goontron
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    • Dec 2011
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    #2
    Re: External Drive Enclosure

    yes, it sounds if some power rail has sagged out of limits. is this that hotswap wannabe on a HP desktop or is it the real (4 bay) thing here https://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/s...tno/661618-B21?
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    • davg
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      • Sep 2008
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      #3
      Re: External Drive Enclosure

      Its the hot swap for HP Desktop, a personal media drive that can be either used in a media bay or just used as an external enclosure

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      • davg
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        • Sep 2008
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        #4
        Re: External Drive Enclosure

        Like this one
        Attached Files

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        • stj
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          • Dec 2009
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          #5
          Re: External Drive Enclosure

          so open it and lets see the guts!

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          • davg
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            • Sep 2008
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            #6
            Re: External Drive Enclosure

            Thanks as soon as I get an opportunity I will post some pictures in the meantime it has a cooling fan and I am not sure it is spinning up?? could this cause the problem?

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            • stj
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              #7
              Re: External Drive Enclosure

              unlikely - does it have a tacho output?

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              • davg
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                • Sep 2008
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                #8
                Re: External Drive Enclosure

                I did check the fan and it do work. so your are right not likely the problem No tech output that I can see.

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                • davg
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: External Drive Enclosure

                  As promised here is some pictures
                  Attached Files

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                  • stj
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                    #10
                    Re: External Drive Enclosure

                    nice.
                    plug the psu in,
                    and meter the voltage on the 2 things that look like regulators - u13 and u14

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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4949
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: External Drive Enclosure

                      U2 looks like a DC-DC converter with that big diode and inductor connected to it
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                      • davg
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                        • Sep 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: External Drive Enclosure

                        Originally posted by stj
                        nice.
                        plug the psu in,
                        and meter the voltage on the 2 things that look like regulators - u13 and u14
                        U13 looks like BA33P reading left to right (with ground on top) Black on center pin, red on pin 1- 3.297v and red on pin 3 - 5.11v
                        U14 looks like CB18p reading left to right (ground on top) black on center pin red on pin 1 - 1.783v red on pin 3 - 3.296v I don't have a date sheet so not sure which pins are in or out

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                        • stj
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                          #13
                          Re: External Drive Enclosure

                          pin 1 is output - and they seem o.k.

                          they are 1117 compatable 3v3 and 1v8
                          i suspect the initial 5v is from the switching supply mentioned by agent24

                          so power-wise that only leaves the 12v to check.

                          i cant see any access to the connector solder-joints - best to plug it into a harddrive & meter the connections on the drive-side.
                          it's the wide-part.

                          did you try it with a 3.5inch drive, or a 2.5inch one?
                          2.5 wont need 12v.

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                          • davg
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                            #14
                            Re: External Drive Enclosure

                            Reading 5.17v only. 12v is missing?? 3.5 inch drive will not work a 2.5 inch drive will work just fine
                            Last edited by davg; 05-11-2014, 05:54 AM.

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                            • stj
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                              #15
                              Re: External Drive Enclosure

                              then you found the fault - trace the 12v contacts back & see where they lead.

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                              • davg
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                                • Sep 2008
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                                #16
                                Re: External Drive Enclosure

                                Success!!! at least temporarily?? The fault is with a ribbon cable that connect the front and back boards. This cable has separated from the board with the sata connector dropping the voltage to that board. I am not sure if this ribbon cable was soldered to the two boards or just glued in place?? right now I have soldered it but it don't look pretty however it do work but sometime I get a message "the hard drive need to be formatted before use"

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                                • stj
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                                  #17
                                  Re: External Drive Enclosure

                                  maybe it's pulling too much current for the connections - see if the 5v & gnd have the same poor looknig connections.

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                                  • davg
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                                    • Sep 2008
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                                    #18
                                    Re: External Drive Enclosure

                                    Originally posted by stj
                                    maybe it's pulling too much current for the connections - see if the 5v & gnd have the same poor looknig connections.
                                    Thanks stj.Yes it do and I will be going back over the thing later to try and fix up the poor solder job (soldering not my specialty)
                                    Last edited by davg; 05-11-2014, 04:47 PM.

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                                    • davg
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                                      • Sep 2008
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                                      #19
                                      Re: External Drive Enclosure

                                      I just tried the original 500 gig 7200rpm drive in this unite and I am still getting "the usb device is not recognized" (The drive do work connected inside my computer) Also I but in a 250gig into this unit and it will work?? I have not re-soldered yet

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