The 2014 Operating System Thread

[Topcat]

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What else am I to run on those? Vistrash?

How much RAM is in them? If you feed Vista enough memory and know how to denut it, Vista really isn't that bad....and its still supported...and if you have COA's for it, yea.

[ratdude747]

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How much RAM is in them? If you feed Vista enough memory and know how to denut it, Vista really isn't that bad....and its still supported...and if you have COA's for it, yea.

2GB in three, 4gb in one (but it also has 7 x64 and Arch x64).

Even so, I don't like it. like how 3 obscure updates are required to install sp1. And I don't quite have the COA's... One for home basic (lame),one for home premium (lost), and one for ultimate (on a laptop I SLIC modded to have 7 and is getting rehomed). There also is a 4th on my recent asus laptop but it's worn off (no idea what version, and I don't think the code is legible enough) They aren't frequently used... so I don't see it as a problem.

[Topcat]

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2GB in three, 4gb in one (but it also has 7 x64 and Arch x64).

Even so, I don't like it. like how 3 obscure updates are required to install sp1. And I don't quite have the COA's... One for home basic (lame),one for home premium (lost), and one for ultimate (on a laptop I SLIC modded to have 7 and is getting rehomed). There also is a 4th on my recent asus laptop but it's worn off (no idea what version, and I don't think the code is legible enough) They aren't frequently used... so I don't see it as a problem.

Have you tried WU on a fresh install of xp x86 lately?! unless you install an obscure little update that wont show up in WU, it wont update anymore...just spits out errors....but since you dont have the COA's, using vista (legitimately), its a non-issue anyway. 7 and vista function pretty much the same, as 7 was just a polished up vista anyway....

[c_hegge]

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The odd part is, though, that Office 2013 will run on 7 and 8, but not Vista. I'm pretty sure that it's a deliberate move by M$. Not that I'd complain anyway. Office 2013 is just a much uglier and more 2D looking version of office 2010 anyway.

[Topcat]

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I still run office 2003....

[ratdude747]

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Have you tried WU on a fresh install of xp x86 lately?! unless you install an obscure little update that wont show up in WU, it wont update anymore...just spits out errors....but since you dont have the COA's, using vista (legitimately), its a non-issue anyway. 7 and vista function pretty much the same, as 7 was just a polished up vista anyway....

Nope, I haven't.

I'd take 7 over vista any day... But XP works. For what I do with those laptops (not much), XP is plenty. Even EOL. It's not like AV doesn't exist anymore... Even if they drop MSE, I'm sure there will be another free AV that will have XP support of some form (they'd be idiots not to).

[c_hegge]

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I still run office 2003....

I do have office 07, but the only program I use from it is Outlook (which didn't use the ribbon interface until v2010). For everything else, I only ever use OpenOffice.

My only other gripe with Vista is the lack of automatic trim support for SSDs. It's a bit of a shame, since putting Vista on an SSD is the only way to really make it fly (and now that both my main desktops have SSDs as the boot drives, There's no going back)

[ratdude747]

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The odd part is, though, that Office 2013 will run on 7 and 8, but not Vista. I'm pretty sure that it's a deliberate move by M$. Not that I'd complain anyway. Office 2013 is just a much uglier and more 2D looking version of office 2010 anyway.

I use libreoffice. works on virtually any OS (minus older Mac OS versions and pre-XP windows). Problem solved.

That said, Office '13 isn't that bad... having seen some of the features (my GF is taking a class in it), there were some things that were well done (like simplifying a lot of formatting options, and making a bibliography system that actually works (and supports oddball citation styles).

[goontron]

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I dunno.....When is the last time you got 13 years out of a single distro of linux?!

i have an amd386 running debian slink.

[Topcat]

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Nope, I haven't.

I'd take 7 over vista any day... But XP works. For what I do with those laptops (not much), XP is plenty. Even EOL. It's not like AV doesn't exist anymore... Even if they drop MSE, I'm sure there will be another free AV that will have XP support of some form (they'd be idiots not to).

Yea, like I said, for an informed user, XP will be ok EOL.....but it is risky... Win2k was falling apart within months of EOL due to security issues....hopefully XP will hang on a little longer....but for machines that are critical in my herd, I dont take chances. I too would take 7 over vista, thats a no-brainer.....but if you have vista COA's and enough RAM (which I was initially asking about), I'd run with it.

i have an amd386 running debian slink.

...and besides it sitting there running, what function does it serve other than the fact you can say its 'alive'?

[RJARRRPCGP]

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I'd dump it too for the old laptops... but 7 COA's don't grow on trees and decent linux support (read: not vesa) for any ATI/AMD gpu HD4000 series and older is non-existant. Same for intel chips i915 and older... IIRC no support for the latest xorg (but I don't have any more laptops in running condition with those, short a D400 needing charging repairs). What else am I to run on those? Vistrash?

i915 ironically is the name given to the new Intel driver used, at least for G31...

And the actual i915 was probably at least better than that trash known as i815!

i815 was an outright crippled mess. Not just the paltry 512 MB RAM limit...
Graphics were messy, even for 2001 standards. My late 1990s Voodoo 3 would decimate it!

[Elysarian]

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I still support some win2k boxes, the client has them physically isolated on their own LAN though.

I recently downloaded an iso of win2k pro (service pack 2) for repair purposes on these machines as I lost my disk...

It is possible to upgrade them to XP (some have XP on them already) but as far as I'm aware the software running on them won't accept anything newer (I do intend experimenting with upgrading one that came into the workshop to win7 as soon as I have time to image the HDD though)

[goontron]

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..and besides it sitting there running, what function does it serve other than the fact you can say its 'alive'?

its an FTP server that access data from the rest of my systems by way of samba and its up to date because its using repos from jessy.
or if you need it said in "compatibility mode": its a "file server" that access data from the rest of my "computers" by way of "windows share" and its up to date because i told "windows update" to use "updates" from "windows 7".

[Topcat]

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its an FTP server that access data from the rest of my systems by way of samba and its up to date because its using repos from jessy.
or if you need it said in "compatibility mode": its a "file server" that access data from the rest of my "computers" by way of "windows share" and its up to date because i told "windows update" to use "updates" from "windows 7".

lol...you should seek a job from our government.....overkill and redundancy at its finest!

[goontron]

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lol...you should seek a job from our government.....overkill and redundancy at its finest!

why thankyou

[donnie0512]

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currently running 8, 7sp1, xp sp0, osx, 2000 sp4, and the random drive with 3.11
office versions 95 through 08

[TELVM]

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Windows 8 is the most vulnerable Windows OS

Microsoft's Windows 8 platform has been tagged by security research firm Secunia as having the most vulnerabilities of any Windows platform on the market.

[Per Hansson]

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Regarding the above^^
"If you are wondering why Windows 8 tops the charts, even though Microsoft touts the platform as more secure than its predecessors, the answer is quite simple; Flash. Because Flash is now baked into the modern instance of IE, any Flash vulnerability can now be tied into Windows 8 as well."

I'm not defending Win8 by any means, but I just think it's a little too sensationalist, atleast complain against the correct company : http://www.techspot.com/article/616-adobe-flash-fail/

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I still run office 2003....

I do aswell, but keep in mind it will be EOL at the same date as WinXP...

The BIG difference being that progman.exe was still present in W95 (and up to XP SP1 in fact) for you to use if that was your CHOICE, even though few people chose so as the then new desktop interface was well engineered and thoroughly tested and become an instant success.

That's how it works, you seduce people into a better product, as opposed to raping them into an inferior one.

Thanks for posting this, it had actually not crossed my mind, so true!

[TELVM]

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Your words:

... Being one of the most prolific sources of security vulnerabilities in Windows and other platforms, Adobe Flash Player needs no introduction. In spite of that reputation, and the fact that the rest of the industry is moving away from Flash, Microsoft surprised many of us by bundling the software with its operating system for the first time with Windows 8 ...

And yet the link above is 'sensationalism'.

Guess the ongoing orchestrated FUDfest to ditch XP and 'update' to Tiles 8 on security grounds must then be 'scientific method' :

[Topcat]

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Well, look at the Vista column and the Se7en column....seems the author of that can't add.... Credible?